The obsession with exactly two levels

[robvalue]

Let me pose a further question:

If we are in fact a manifestation of a process in another level, are we "real"? It's a question I've pondered a lot over the last few years. My answer at the moment is that we're no less real than if we are no such manifestation; and that trying to formally define what is real is an exercise in futility.

In other words, "things are as real as they appear to be, to any particular observer". It's a mantra I came up with a while ago, and I haven't improved on it since.

[Minimalist]

More nonsense adapted from Mesopotamian religion.  All of the Abrahamic bullshit artists knew of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heav...ristianity

In religious or mythological cosmology, the seven heavens refer to seven layers of the sky. These were associated in ancient times both with the metaphysical realms of deities and with observed celestial bodies such as the classical planets and fixed stars.[1] The concept, derived from ancient Mesopotamian religions, can be found in the Abrahamic religions such as Islam, Judaism and Christianity; a similar concept is also found in some Indian religions such as Hinduism.[2] Some of these traditions, including Jainism, also have a concept of seven earths or seven underworlds.

[The Valkyrie]

Scientology has many levels. The guy was a sci-fi writer.

Not a very good one considering the spaceships in his cult's backstory look like planes from the 50s and 60s.