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What's your biggest beef with religion?
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It's insistence that magic or the supernatural are a explanation for real phenomenon . Then attempting to rewrite epistemology to give special exemptions to their beliefs.
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Inuit Proverb  (September 16, 2018 at 8:05 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I'm sure most of us have multiple "beefs." But this thread isn't about those. Just about your biggest one. Theists encouraged to participate. In my experience, I’ve never found that to be the case. I’ve heard of some who behave that way, but many do not as well.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther  RE: What's your biggest beef with religion?
September 16, 2018 at 11:17 pm
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(September 16, 2018 at 10:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(September 16, 2018 at 8:05 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I'm sure most of us have multiple "beefs." But this thread isn't about those. Just about your biggest one. Theists encouraged to participate. Don't you have any gripes about religion, RR? It's okay if you do. Even Jesus turned over a table or two every once in a while. 
(September 16, 2018 at 11:17 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(September 16, 2018 at 10:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: In my experience, I’ve never found that to be the case. I’ve heard of some who behave that way, but many do not as well. Religion in general... not particularly. With Christianity.... sure there are some gripes, sometimes we create are own problems. But nothing in particular sticking out at the moment.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther 
Anti intellectual and Hell-bent on bringing the rest of us down to their level. Technically, that’s two gripes, but they are so interconnected.
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Indoctrination.
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The willful suppression of skepticism and critical thinking.
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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
My beef with religion.
I hate being lied to.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (September 17, 2018 at 3:47 am)robvalue Wrote: Indoctrination. (September 17, 2018 at 4:48 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The willful suppression of skepticism and critical thinking. These 2 are related. You can't have indoctrination without also suppressing skepticism and critical thinking skills, so I'll go with that as my biggest beef with religion.
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RE: What's your biggest beef with religion?
September 17, 2018 at 6:33 am
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Yeah, I picked it because it's the root cause of almost all other problems with religion. It is the religion in a sense, because without it, the religion would die out almost immediately. Something that was true, moral and worthwhile would not be so fragile.
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