Perhaps African Americans Are Finally Catching On

[Minimalist]

I have no doubt that Dripshit endorses the words of Robert E. Lee.  Sadly, it seems that Huggy does too. 

https://www.civilwarhome.com/leepierce.htm

There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day.

Typical xtian garbage.  Note how this issue is to be addressed by prayer but leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences.

Funny how that one they are ready to leave in their hands of their stupid, fucking, non-existent, "god" but gay rights, abortion, and rapist judges have be dealt with by them!

[Aegon]

Black people need to thank god every day for white christians saving them and telling them how to live. What would they have done without a concept of hell, poor heathen devils. They didn't have a clue.

it's simple to see what they would have done... simply look at sub saharan african run nations or states that never adopted christianity on a national level. plenty of examples in africa.

You can even see what happens when black american reject popular american morality in favor for 'black culture' in a mass scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk78UEJnH4Q


Take god away there is only black culture, watch the youtube video and tell me you agree with BLM and their demands. or better yet look and tell me which non christian sub saharan african country/culture you choose to replace that of current Black Christian Americans...

Seriously which one of these two options do you want in your neighborhood?

Because the only moderate group that shares anything resembling pop morality are black Christians. Take away Christianity where are black people supposed to go? There are only two observable social structures Hate white western culture..

what will you do whittie? I'm covered.

"The white man's burden" lives on!

[Drich]

it's simple to see what they would have done... simply look at sub saharan african run nations or states that never adopted christianity on a national level. plenty of examples in africa.

You can even see what happens when black american reject popular american morality in favor for 'black culture' in a mass scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk78UEJnH4Q


Take god away there is only black culture, watch the youtube video and tell me you agree with BLM and their demands. or better yet look and tell me which non christian sub saharan african country/culture you choose to replace that of current Black Christian Americans...

Seriously which one of these two options do you want in your neighborhood?

Because the only moderate group that shares anything resembling pop morality are black Christians. Take away Christianity where are black people supposed to go? There are only two observable social structures Hate white western culture..

what will you do whittie? I'm covered.

So, all people around the world need to behave as white christians according to you. Great. 

And your video proves nothing. The same as a KKK video would prove nothing. Now a video on what christians did the the American natives, that would prove something.

Why the hell would you think and African culture would transplant to America? My only guess is total ignorance. 

Thankfully, you're not the only christian racist here at AF so we can see what much of christianity stands for, from both sides.

Again white devils I according to the black american definition of racism can not ever be found to be a racist no matter what I say lest you call all black people racist first. because I am in a minority's minority when it comes to my 'people' being represented in this country, and to not have the social power to be racist no matter what I say..
the new definition of racism. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ0QfLkjujY

And even by the old definition Im not saying one race is better. I am simply pointing out compatibility issue between culture... See that what people of my back ground do so we can learn to navigate out own families. we identify and try and avoid the social 'hot spots' because we are often caught in the middle. To me here the only thing keep black people from starting their own civil war are the numbers being held to the white/american community via collective morality and a strong pull toward the demand of patriotism the bible commands of all of us.

That said the reason I said the black people would follow one extreme or another is because without Christianity there is no middle ground. it is only through christian does black culture align itself with white culture. I used black lives matter as a western example of what happens when black people cast of the love and laws of God and take to the streets in anger. Then I showed what happens when black people have NO influence of God whatsoever.

There are only three prominent real world examples of black communities. the only one compatible with white culture is the one with Christianity at it's core. the other two are clear unmolested examples of a completely different culture with completely different values and a completely different sense of right and wrong outside of the bible.

So again which one do you choose... or if your small little mind can't help but seek the easy way out and call everything pertain to race/racist.. show me an example of a black community without God in compliance with the moral value set of white america and white western culture. make sure you scale it right as well. you can't point to your black buddy 'tom' and is family and say he doesn't believe in God and he doesn't want to 'burn down white people shit.' Show me something on a national scale. Show me a black live matters movement who just wants to be lukewarm atheist like yourself who just wants to keep the status quo, minus God, but perserve america the way it is.

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I have no doubt that Dripshit endorses the words of Robert E. Lee.  Sadly, it seems that Huggy does too. 

https://www.civilwarhome.com/leepierce.htm

There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day.

Typical xtian garbage.  Note how this issue is to be addressed by prayer but leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences.

Funny how that one they are ready to leave in their hands of their stupid, fucking, non-existent, "god" but gay rights, abortion, and rapist judges have be dealt with by them!

Read his words you f-ing moron! just because it was lee doesn't mean he was evil

First line: There are few in the world that will not say slavery is a moral evil and a political evil... That was robert E Lee Calling slavery Evil you stupid twat! who would disagree with that?!?!? Then second line there is no point in trying to defend slavery at length or in detail. Then he says the evil is weighed heavier on the white man rather than the black. again what f-ing moron would disagree with this?

would this next line be what has you panties in a bunch?
The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially.

Do you know what liberia is? It is where the US government send all the black people who wanted to go back to africa were sent.. then all the black people who want their own 40 acres and a mule were sent to central and south america as black colonies. EVERYONE ELSE STAYED ON THEIR OWN ACCORD!!!

Know it or not like it or not not every plantation owner was evil, not every plantation treated slaves badly. some were treated with pride and honor because of cost and ability to work/make small farmers the money they needed. most worked hand in hand with their owners not doing anything the owners themselves were not involved in. Some slaves were treated as family most were treated as any other paid field hand, (yes slaves received compensation to one degree or another especially if they had a skill, matter of fact it was not uncommon for a slave to save up and buy their own freedom! Then stay on as laborers!!!) which is why so many stay on with their original masters and as a tribute took their last names!!! with in 10 years of the wars end no black person who wanted to be here was here, because the government wanted them gone. lincoln wanted ALL black people gone. If he had not been shot all black slaves would have been deported, but a compromise was struck and those who wanted to go went and those who wanted to stay got to stay.
http://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommat...f/slavery/

Wow the rest of the letter simply extolls what we already know to be true, that christianity is indeed eroding away from former slaves which to lee diminishes any other benefit they may have gained while they were here. more or less "what does it profit a man who gains the whole world and looses his soul?

[Minimalist]

Read his words you f-ing moron! just because it was lee doesn't mean he was evil

YOU read his words you dumb, fucking, piece of shit.  A patronizing proponent of the white man's burden.  Whereas you are just a total moron.  Xtianity has destroyed you, Dripshit.  Without it you might have grown up to be a rational human being instead of the sorry piece of superstitious shit you are.

[Drich]

further more lee was not in support of slavery his wife family owned them, he wanted to set them free she did not, but agree to do so on the death of her father. the letter below is from lee explaining this tot he ny times 3 years before the war. then one year before lincolon emansipation while the south was winning the war lee set 150 of his family slave free upon the death of his father in law "Mr. Curtis".. Again while he was general of the confederate Army!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/us/ro...laves.html
For many of you who would take down the statue of lee for these reason we put them up in the first place. For lee the war was not about slavery he had his own mind about that. it was about the rights of the southern states, and federalization. before the civil war each state was it's own contry who was allowed to make it's own laws except when it came time to defend the nation. like for example if abortion was a thing. each state could make it's own decision, which was true on every topic not covered by the constitution or the bill of rights... while the federal government kept infringing on these right slavery being a big one.. not the right to keep slaves but the rights to transport slaves west of the mississippi.

The north had an influx of white immigrants who they were trying to send west for jobs and could not do that is it were filled with slaves. So the idea was to cut off slavery at the mississippi river and push the white immigrants into the west and out of the cities back east. Originally neither side gave two squirts about freeing black people. it was not till the north was loosing and needed black people to fill out the ranks of the army did freeing the slaves become apart of the civil war. here is a letter lincoln sent to the editor of the NY tribune, telling his just that. He only concern is to save the union. if that means slaves then we will have slaves and if it means we must free them then we will do that! he does not care one way or the other.
http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/linc...reeley.htm

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Read his words you f-ing moron! just because it was lee doesn't mean he was evil

YOU read his words you dumb, fucking, piece of shit.  A patronizing proponent of the white man's burden.  Whereas you are just a total moron.  Xtianity has destroyed you, Dripshit.  Without it you might have grown up to be a rational human being instead of the sorry piece of superstitious shit you are.

what a simple minded little man you are. You can not even offer an opposing view. you just name call. Yes I called you names but was able to also construct an opposing view based on the data you provided. is you mind so shot, are you just so overwhelmed with emotion when someone opposes you, you can not construct a coherent rebuttal?

Riddle me this you old turd if you can't make an argument with out boom booming your adult diapers then WTF are you doing here?

Use your words dummy that what this forum is for... exchange of ideas. 

But that is what you did.. I confronted you and all your ideas shifted to hate and venom, you can't make you mind think beyond that

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it's simple to see what they would have done... simply look at sub saharan african run nations or states that never adopted christianity on a national level. plenty of examples in africa.

You can even see what happens when black american reject popular american morality in favor for 'black culture' in a mass scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk78UEJnH4Q


Take god away there is only black culture, watch the youtube video and tell me you agree with BLM and their demands. or better yet look and tell me which non christian sub saharan african country/culture you choose to replace that of current Black Christian Americans...

Seriously which one of these two options do you want in your neighborhood?

Because the only moderate group that shares anything resembling pop morality are black Christians. Take away Christianity where are black people supposed to go? There are only two observable social structures Hate white western culture..

what will you do whittie? I'm covered.

"The white man's burden" lives on!

this is not a matter of white man's burden, it is a matter of what the hell will people do when black people throw off white culture/white morality?

 Right now we have a shared culture and a shared morality because of the church. it is through the church we can come together and thrive as americans... What I'm saying is without the church there is no other commonality between white and black culture, even our core fundamental values/morality are different when you move away from the church.

The church is the lock on the gates of hell, and some moron is celebrating the idea that the lock is weakening

[Anomalocaris]

it's simple to see what they would have done... simply look at sub saharan african run nations or states that never adopted christianity on a national level. plenty of examples in africa.

You can even see what happens when black american reject popular american morality in favor for 'black culture' in a mass scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk78UEJnH4Q


Take god away there is only black culture, watch the youtube video and tell me you agree with BLM and their demands. or better yet look and tell me which non christian sub saharan african country/culture you choose to replace that of current Black Christian Americans...

Seriously which one of these two options do you want in your neighborhood?

Because the only moderate group that shares anything resembling pop morality are black Christians. Take away Christianity where are black people supposed to go? There are only two observable social structures Hate white western culture..

what will you do whittie? I'm covered.

"The white man's burden" lives on!

Drippy is only an honorary White in his own mind.   The sort of white man he imagine himself to be will smile at the likes of him, pat him on the back for bringing in more rice Christians, and then kick him into a kenal reserved for half breeds.

[Aegon]

"The white man's burden" lives on!

this is not a matter of white man's burden, it is a matter of what the hell will people do when black people throw off white culture/white morality?

 Right now we have a shared culture and a shared morality because of the church. it is through the church we can come together and thrive as americans... What I'm saying is without the church there is no other commonality between white and black culture, even our core fundamental values/morality are different when you move away from the church.

The church is the lock on the gates of hell, and some moron is celebrating the idea that the lock is weakening

What!? That's absurd. Theres just... so many... I... what? I have to get to a laptop because theres too much to type in response to be on mobile.

[Minimalist]

Fuck you, Dripshit!    And your little god, too!

[brewer]

Again white devils I according to the black american definition of racism can not ever be found to be a racist no matter what I say lest you call all black people racist first. because I am in a minority's minority when it comes to my 'people' being represented in this country, and to not have the social power to be racist no matter what I say..
the new definition of racism. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ0QfLkjujY

And even by the old definition Im not saying one race is better. I am simply pointing out compatibility issue between culture... See that what people of my back ground do so we can learn to navigate out own families. we identify and try and avoid the social 'hot spots' because we are often caught in the middle. To me here the only thing keep black people from starting their own civil war are the numbers being held to the white/american community via collective morality and a strong pull toward the demand of patriotism the bible commands of all of us.

That said the reason I said the black people would follow one extreme or another is because without Christianity there is no middle ground. it is only through christian does black culture align itself with white culture. I used black lives matter as a western example of what happens when black people cast of the love and laws of God and take to the streets in anger. Then I showed what happens when black people have NO influence of God whatsoever.

There are only three prominent real world examples of black communities. the only one compatible with white culture is the one with Christianity at it's core. the other two are clear unmolested examples of a completely different culture with completely different values and a completely different sense of right and wrong outside of the bible.

So again which one do you choose... or if your small little mind can't help but seek the easy way out and call everything pertain to race/racist.. show me an example of a black community without God in compliance with the moral value set of white america and white western culture. make sure you scale it right as well. you can't point to your black buddy 'tom' and is family and say he doesn't believe in God and he doesn't want to 'burn down white people shit.' Show me something on a national scale. Show me a black live matters movement who just wants to be lukewarm atheist like yourself who just wants to keep the status quo, minus God, but perserve america the way it is.

Again, your video proves nothing, just one person ranting. I could show a white supremacist saying the same kind of things. Why the hell do you see a few videos and think they apply to all of black society? I tell you why, fear. That why you're all bent out of shape about BLM. 

You don't seem to be typing to well so I'll ask, what minority's minority people are you? 

So black people need to become compatible with the white christian culture or else there will be a race war. Thanks Charlie Manson.  

There is a middle ground, you just don't want it. 

What are the other two black cultures that you allude to?

You used your "black buddy tom christian", but I won't stoop to that. How about Australia and New Guinea. Why the hell do they have to be "in compliance" with your white jesus? Their society, their morals. Don't like it, don't live there.

[Drich]

this is not a matter of white man's burden, it is a matter of what the hell will people do when black people throw off white culture/white morality?

 Right now we have a shared culture and a shared morality because of the church. it is through the church we can come together and thrive as americans... What I'm saying is without the church there is no other commonality between white and black culture, even our core fundamental values/morality are different when you move away from the church.

The church is the lock on the gates of hell, and some moron is celebrating the idea that the lock is weakening

What!? That's absurd. Theres just... so many... I... what? I have to get to a laptop  because theres too much to type in response to be on mobile.

where do you live england? I hear The biggest problem you have with black people there is they put mayonnaise on their fish and chips, what can you possible know? (that black people are almost completely assimilated into the culture.)

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Again white devils I according to the black american definition of racism can not ever be found to be a racist no matter what I say lest you call all black people racist first. because I am in a minority's minority when it comes to my 'people' being represented in this country, and to not have the social power to be racist no matter what I say..
the new definition of racism. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ0QfLkjujY

And even by the old definition Im not saying one race is better. I am simply pointing out compatibility issue between culture... See that what people of my back ground do so we can learn to navigate out own families. we identify and try and avoid the social 'hot spots' because we are often caught in the middle. To me here the only thing keep black people from starting their own civil war are the numbers being held to the white/american community via collective morality and a strong pull toward the demand of patriotism the bible commands of all of us.

That said the reason I said the black people would follow one extreme or another is because without Christianity there is no middle ground. it is only through christian does black culture align itself with white culture. I used black lives matter as a western example of what happens when black people cast of the love and laws of God and take to the streets in anger. Then I showed what happens when black people have NO influence of God whatsoever.

There are only three prominent real world examples of black communities. the only one compatible with white culture is the one with Christianity at it's core. the other two are clear unmolested examples of a completely different culture with completely different values and a completely different sense of right and wrong outside of the bible.

So again which one do you choose... or if your small little mind can't help but seek the easy way out and call everything pertain to race/racist.. show me an example of a black community without God in compliance with the moral value set of white america and white western culture. make sure you scale it right as well. you can't point to your black buddy 'tom' and is family and say he doesn't believe in God and he doesn't want to 'burn down white people shit.' Show me something on a national scale. Show me a black live matters movement who just wants to be lukewarm atheist like yourself who just wants to keep the status quo, minus God, but perserve america the way it is.

Again, your video proves nothing, just one person ranting. I could show a white supremacist saying the same kind of things. Why the hell do you see a few videos and think they apply to all of black society?

whoa whoa who... I challenged you moron, no fancy red herring bullshit allowed. stop relying on calling people racist as your last word and defend what you have said twice now and what I called you to provide.

That is proof of a social movement with in the black community that demand black people to conform to this country's rules laws and social norms like the church...

Yes this video could be of a lunitic (in actually it is not it is michael eric dyson who is a well establish intellect giving legitmacy to riots and looting in exchange for free homes and the right for black people not to have to obey white laws.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Eric_Dyson
But that is not the point. I will drop all of that so you can show me an established black movement that struggles to bring black people into full assimilation of all america. Something on the scale of blm

I tell you why, fear. That why you're all bent out of shape about BLM. 

I'm a prepper I fear no man lest he has more ammo than me. and I can promise you, you... don't.

You don't seem to be typing to well so I'll ask, what minority's minority people are you? 

I am in the minority, of a minority in this country. I belong to a sub group of one of the smallest groups in this country and by the defination now adopted by BLM I can not be a racist ever.

So black people need to become compatible with the white christian culture or else there will be a race war. Thanks Charlie Manson.  

ah,no... What I've said 1000 times now is The church is the common social and moral bridge between that currently exists between white and black people of the same faith. The church takes race off the table for most any and all. As we are all slave under God. Even those of you who are not in the church benfit because black people adopt the morality of the church, which keeps even none church people 'safe.' Now take the church away, and there are only two examples we can go by of what black people look like without God guiding them. One was the african nation example. the other is what you described as my fear... BLM

In fact I am only saying these are the only two examples of what black people look like without God... there are no examples of black people acting like white atheists

How can you even pretend to argue my points if you don't even get this most basic of ideas?

There is a middle ground, you just don't want it. 

Bull shit! I have asked you to provide an example of this middle ground several times now. SHOW ME a living example of said middle ground!!!

What are the other two black cultures that you allude to?

You used your "black buddy tom christian", but I won't stoop to that. How about Australia and New Guinea. Why the hell do they have to be "in compliance" with your white jesus? Their society, their morals. Don't like it, don't live there.

because even though their skin is black... they are not sub saharan african ex-slaves who were displaced 200 to 400 years ago moron. They have dark skin, but they moved to australia 75,000 or so years ago supposedly. if anything socially they are more like the american indian.

meaning displaced on their own land and hunted till almost extent and then placed on reserves. Not to mention there was no forced social expansion.. meaning we took our slaves out of the literal stone age and thrust them into the industrial revolution and on into the post modern era.. lots of social change for a people who has no social infrastructure, meaning nothing to bridge the gap from the stone age to post modern living. The aboriginal tribes in australia are free to live in the stone or iron age if they wish. there is no social pressure for someone who's linage 4 generations back would literally place them in a modern stone age. yet now they live in post modern society with out the benefit of the mellian of social structure and slow development/values that people develop and teach over time from father to son mother to daughter till it is just apart of who we are.

If there is any truth in "white privilege" it is that. not that is is uniquely white but it is true of all culture who has been forced to evolve socially, verse the people who still live in their very own stone age. like some of the indian tribes in south america and still in africa. no social advancement no social mandates no social infrastructure. it is like taking you and dropping you in japan. yes over time you might learn the culture and language, but imagine how your children would fare if they tried to hold on to who you were and where your people came from rather than adopt to their new country and be raised as japanese citizens taking japanese spouses.. life would be exceeding hard. I know this because of my situation. when in america I am white and when in korea or around korean people I must make the change and cast off white culture and curtesy and put on korean manners and live under korean rules. Which is what I am saying (more or less) black people are taught to do in the church. to assimilate themselves into society it is one of our mandates. what black american culture teaches is never forget who your people were.. not who they really were but the roots version of who your people were. Never assimilate. force the culture to adapt to your needs. be the dominate culture. which again is mirrored in both african soceity/no God and in black american society who have cast off God.

Before you argue for the sake of just saying the opposite... Do you understand what I am telling you?

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"The white man's burden" lives on!

Drippy is only an honorary White in his own mind.   The sort of white man he imagine himself to be will smile at the likes of him, pat him on the back for bringing in more rice Christians, and then kick him into a kenal reserved for half breeds.

no no I learned that lesson long time ago. White people only want a dog an pony show from 1/2ies they want you to shit on the non white side declare allegiance and then tell you to f-off because you are not really white. so now that you've alienated 1/2 of your family to try and make a few friends the other 1/2 wonders what you tell the 'chinks' when they are not around... so no one wants anything to do with you.

remember to frame this in 1970s/1980 america where we just lost our last two wars with asians that have been going on pretty steady since dec 7 1941. Or if you prefer put the vib on me then as you would have an arab on 9-12-01