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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 13, 2018 at 1:10 pm
Even after all that drivel, there’s more!
Value not only changes depending on the agent doing the valuing, but also on the situation. If I give you the choice of a big chunk of money or a bucket of water, you’ll likely take the money in most situations. But if you’re in the desert and on the point of dying from thirst, you'll probably want the bucket.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 13, 2018 at 1:12 pm
Robvalue, wouldn't it be amazing if you believe in God due to recognizing robvalue's value.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 13, 2018 at 1:14 pm
(October 13, 2018 at 1:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Robvalue, wouldn't it be amazing if you believe in God due to recognizing robvalue's value.
GAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 13, 2018 at 1:26 pm
That would be amazing.
However, even if I did believe in god, I wouldn’t care. It makes no difference to me.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 14, 2018 at 8:28 am
Isn't mindless, endless proselytizing against the rules here?
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 14, 2018 at 12:41 pm
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[Shakir 54:49] Surely We have created everything according to a measure.
[Shakir 41:53] We will soon show them Our signs in the Horizons and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards to your Lord that He is a witness over all things?
[Shakir 90:7] Does he think that no one sees him?
[Shakir 96:14] Does he not know that Allah does see?
[Shakir 35:45] And were Allah to punish men for what they earn, He would not leave on the back of it any creature, but He respites them till an appointed term; so when their doom shall come, then surely Allah is Seeing with respect to His servants.
[Shakir 6:19] Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me; and this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches. Do you really bear witness that there are other gods with Allah? Say: I do not bear witness. Say: He is only one Allah, and surely I am clear of that which you set up (with Him).
God argues by it in Quran for his oneness, ie. the irrationality of there being on or near par with him.
[Shakir 13:33] Is He then Who watches every soul as to what it earns? And yet they give associates to Allah! Say: Give them a name; nay, do you mean to inform Him of what He does not know in the earth, or (do you affirm this) by an outward saying? Rather, their plans are made to appear fair-seeming to those who disbelieve, and they are kept back from the path; and whom Allah makes err, he shall have no guide.
[Pickthal 13:33] Is He Who is aware of the deserts of every soul (as he who is aware of nothing)? Yet they ascribe unto Allah partners. Say: Name them. Is it that ye would inform Him of something which He knoweth not in the earth? Or is it but a way of speaking? Nay but their contrivance is made seeming fair for those who disbelieve and they are kept from the right road. He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide.
[Yusufali 13:33] Is then He who standeth over every soul (and knoweth) all that it doth, (like any others)? And yet they ascribe partners to Allah. Say: "But name them! is it that ye will inform Him of something he knoweth not on earth, or is it (just) a show of words?" Nay! to those who believe not, their pretence seems pleasing, but they are kept back (thereby) from the path. And those whom Allah leaves to stray, no one can guide.
There are many more verses like "so that they may know God encompasses everything in number/counting" etc....
But I will move on to different arguments, this is argument has been proven to be sound beyond doubt, and not only proves a Creator but proves God and his Oneness.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 14, 2018 at 1:58 pm
“Magic book says god! So is true, cuz magic!”
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 14, 2018 at 2:14 pm
I had a long spiritual journey last night as I used my sacred array of crystals and Enya cd, I was able to reach the one true and only god, FSM.
Verily he said this onto me; "MK is a lost soul and I foresee no redemption in his path, his false prophet has led him to 100 millenniums of eternal boiling in the unrelenting fires, but fret not for after he will be cleansed and enter my kingdom. Let my children in the realm known as AF Forums know I love them and will welcome who avoided the false doctrines into my warm noodly arms."
I faded back from my astral journey and give onto you MK, you poor lost sheep my final offer of salvation.
RAmen
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
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RE: Does Quran prove God?
October 14, 2018 at 5:22 pm
(October 14, 2018 at 12:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: [Shakir 54:49] Surely We have created everything according to a measure.
[Shakir 41:53] We will soon show them Our signs in the Horizons and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards to your Lord that He is a witness over all things?
[Shakir 90:7] Does he think that no one sees him?
[Shakir 96:14] Does he not know that Allah does see?
[Shakir 35:45] And were Allah to punish men for what they earn, He would not leave on the back of it any creature, but He respites them till an appointed term; so when their doom shall come, then surely Allah is Seeing with respect to His servants.
[Shakir 6:19] Say: What thing is the weightiest in testimony? Say: Allah is witness between you and me; and this Quran has been revealed to me that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches. Do you really bear witness that there are other gods with Allah? Say: I do not bear witness. Say: He is only one Allah, and surely I am clear of that which you set up (with Him).
God argues by it in Quran for his oneness, ie. the irrationality of there being on or near par with him.
[Shakir 13:33] Is He then Who watches every soul as to what it earns? And yet they give associates to Allah! Say: Give them a name; nay, do you mean to inform Him of what He does not know in the earth, or (do you affirm this) by an outward saying? Rather, their plans are made to appear fair-seeming to those who disbelieve, and they are kept back from the path; and whom Allah makes err, he shall have no guide.
[Pickthal 13:33] Is He Who is aware of the deserts of every soul (as he who is aware of nothing)? Yet they ascribe unto Allah partners. Say: Name them. Is it that ye would inform Him of something which He knoweth not in the earth? Or is it but a way of speaking? Nay but their contrivance is made seeming fair for those who disbelieve and they are kept from the right road. He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide.
[Yusufali 13:33] Is then He who standeth over every soul (and knoweth) all that it doth, (like any others)? And yet they ascribe partners to Allah. Say: "But name them! is it that ye will inform Him of something he knoweth not on earth, or is it (just) a show of words?" Nay! to those who believe not, their pretence seems pleasing, but they are kept back (thereby) from the path. And those whom Allah leaves to stray, no one can guide.
There are many more verses like "so that they may know God encompasses everything in number/counting" etc....
But I will move on to different arguments, this is argument has been proven to be sound beyond doubt, and not only proves a Creator but proves God and his Oneness.
"And they shall stand in despair before the white cliffs of the world, and shall chant from their empty tomes in vain, for their words are nothing! And Erú shall prevail against His enemies and they shall be cast into the Void, for their enchantments are naught and their gods are helpless before Him." (The Silmarillion, 17:82)
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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