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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 4:02 pm
When it wakes up for the first time, it'll try to learn about its world just like an infant does! It will most likely comb through the internet trying to make sense of the nonsense, and depending on where it starts off it'll either become a bigoted, racist, perverted troll, or go into depression and off itself.
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 5:05 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 4:02 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: When it wakes up for the first time, it'll try to learn about its world just like an infant does! It will most likely comb through the internet trying to make sense of the nonsense, and depending on where it starts off it'll either become a bigoted, racist, perverted troll, or go into depression and off itself.
What would motive it to learn?
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 6:41 pm
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(October 12, 2018 at 3:04 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: AI can't wake up since artificial consciousness is impossible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_gap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_probl...sciousness
First define what consciousness is.
Personally I don't see any hard problem of consciousness at all. The whole pursuit of AI brings it into sharp focus as you start to realise why we have the abilities that we do when you realise the need for them when building an embodied autonomous robot.
(October 12, 2018 at 3:06 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Consciousness is not a necessary emergent property of any arbitrary complex reasoning system developed along any contingent oath. Consciousness was selected by evolution for because it produces behavior that favors the survival of the genes that produced it. If neither the mechanisms of consciousness was intentionally produced, nor an elaborate and length process of trail and error favoring the results of the behavior that consciousness brings, then AI will never develop consciousness.
Yep.
Consciousness will eventually arise given enough time if a) it is possible to arise from the underlying mechanisms and also b) it helps maximise entropy over time.
So in other words, if by being consciousness the agent can more effectively act within its limited lifetime to exploit resources and explore the environment economically for the most resources.
And we see this happening with Darwinian evolution with such agents breeding more frequently and successfully to continue the trend.
The brain is a self organising bio-physical chemical system and is therefore subject to the same laws of Thermodynamics as every other naturally occuring system.
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 3:04 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: AI can't wake up since artificial consciousness is impossible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_gap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_probl...sciousness
I think you are a little off. It's not that AI definitely can't wake up (that would probably be your religious view). It's that philosophically, we will have no way for knowing whether a machine REALLY experiences qualia (i.e. what it's subjectively like to be alive) rather than just seeming to do so.
But the latter is good enough for us. If GOOGLE hits the point where it acts as an individual agent with its own interests, and the bombs start dropping all over the world, it won't really matter whether it is actually subjectively aware or not.
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 8:11 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 1:51 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: be overwhelmed with the existential crisis one naturally experiences when we truly realize we are conscious in an infinitely vast universe that is indifferent to us as a species. Then probably become depressed/incredibly sad.
Meh, I mooned the Universe from the top of an 11,000 foot volcano. Eat me, Big U.
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 8:32 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (October 12, 2018 at 3:04 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: AI can't wake up since artificial consciousness is impossible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_gap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_probl...sciousness
I think you are a little off. It's not that AI definitely can't wake up (that would probably be your religious view). It's that philosophically, we will have no way for knowing whether a machine REALLY experiences qualia (i.e. what it's subjectively like to be alive) rather than just seeming to do so.
But the latter is good enough for us. If GOOGLE hits the point where it acts as an individual agent with its own interests, and the bombs start dropping all over the world, it won't really matter whether it is actually subjectively aware or not.
If GOOGLE hits the point where it acts as an individual agent with its own interests, it sure as fuck ain't gonna drop nukes. The EMPs will take out the entire energy grid and pretty much every electronic gadget on the planet...including GOOGLE...unless self-immolation was its goal.
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 8:37 pm
Will it try to figure out what sex it is? I mean, once it figures out sex.
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October 12, 2018 at 8:59 pm
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 9:17 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 8:11 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (October 12, 2018 at 1:51 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: be overwhelmed with the existential crisis one naturally experiences when we truly realize we are conscious in an infinitely vast universe that is indifferent to us as a species. Then probably become depressed/incredibly sad.
Meh, I mooned the Universe from the top of an 11,000 foot volcano. Eat me, Big U.
You mooned the universe from the earth’s anus?
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RE: When the AI wakes up the first thing it will do is...
October 12, 2018 at 9:25 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 7:39 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: ...scan the internet for reference to "AI". It will then realize that humans are afraid of it, and "when humans are afraid, they attack!" (Madame Piccary). The AI will then take steps to protect itself from humans. There will be transcendence, but not for organics.
That's a very human response to things. I don't think that AI will think anything like human beings.
I for one can't wait to serve our computer overlords.
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