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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 10:45 am
(October 17, 2018 at 10:41 am)alpha male Wrote: (October 17, 2018 at 10:25 am)Khemikal Wrote: Do you plan on answering the question I asked you this side of rahowa, or not?
Not. I know your games, and I don't have a taste for red herring. If you have a point to make...make it.
No games on our part.
You support an asshole bully. Not our fault you support an asshole bully.
Point is, you need to face the fact you support a bully.
Maybe you should tell the fucker to stop being a bully.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 10:47 am
(October 17, 2018 at 10:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: And you'd be wrong. I've read plenty of stories about Republicans associating with racists at rallies and fund raising events and didn't jump to the conclusion that it meant they support racism.
That wasn't my claim. If Trump tweeted a pic of himself holding a book about the KKK, you'd take that as him supporting the KKK.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 10:55 am
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Only since he has a penchant for silly racist shit and stirring whatever pot you put in front of him. If Elie Wiesel was holding up a copy of Night..I wouldn't suddenly decide that he was a nazi.
The book is about the antifa movement. It is a growing area of concern. It is aligned against the administrations policies, allies, apparatus, and figureheads.
IDK if the tweet was the best career move....but what won't trembling conservative snowflakes imagine in order to scare the shit out of themselves, anymore? He could have tweeted that he loved little ceez and some fucking nutball would waltz into the local pizza pizza with a goddamned rifle demanding that they release the children.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 10:56 am
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(October 17, 2018 at 10:47 am)alpha male Wrote: (October 17, 2018 at 10:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: And you'd be wrong. I've read plenty of stories about Republicans associating with racists at rallies and fund raising events and didn't jump to the conclusion that it meant they support racism.
That wasn't my claim. If Trump tweeted a pic of himself holding a book about the KKK, you'd take that as him supporting the KKK.
Since I haven't encountered such a hypothetical tweet from Trump, the best I can do is look to how I've behaved in similar situations. If Trump stated something like what Ellison did, and I actually bothered to read it (something I'm not sure whether Roadie has actually done), I probably would want to know what he says following the tweet rather than simply jumping to conclusions that I find comforting. Again, YMMV. Imagining the situation, I'd probably shrug it off as a stupid miscalculation rather than saying something deeper about Trump. So, once again, you're wrong. But thanks once again for avoiding the point to focus on a triviality.
You may have responded to my prior post before I was finished editing it. There are additional questions that you haven't answered. https://atheistforums.org/thread-56906-p...pid1833396
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 11:01 am
(October 17, 2018 at 10:55 am)Khemikal Wrote: IDK if the tweet was the best career move....
Jorm said something similar. People on the far right wouldn't be voting for a Dem anyway. By saying this could be bad for his career, you're acknowledging that moderates could reasonably draw the same conclusion.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 11:01 am
(October 17, 2018 at 10:47 am)alpha male Wrote: (October 17, 2018 at 10:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: And you'd be wrong. I've read plenty of stories about Republicans associating with racists at rallies and fund raising events and didn't jump to the conclusion that it meant they support racism.
That wasn't my claim. If Trump tweeted a pic of himself holding a book about the KKK, you'd take that as him supporting the KKK.
You stupidly think that is why the pic was posted? It is not illegal to, for example to own a copy of Mein Kompf, no, but it would look pretty fucking bad if you went beyond owning it to understand how not to be a dick to your fellow humans, and pandered to the same people he appealed to.
It speaks to his pattern of behavior DUMBASS.'
Your asshole bully has vilified Mexicans, Muslims, blacks, war heros, his own intel, THE FREE PRESS!
Going to the Holocaust Museum in DC also does not mean you support genocide. But you look like a COMPLETE FUCKING DICK when you cannot condemn KKK and Nazis after an innocent women gets run over and MURDERED and say "there is blame on many sides".
Obama went to the African port where slaves were shipped to America, no that does not mean he support's slavery.
But the protesters in Charlottesville Va were not promoting "heritage". There were NAZI assholes there too, now tell me, WHEN NAZIS were around to fight for the South in the Civil War? Nazis didn't exist even in Germany at that time. But, both the KKK and Nazis sold white purity.
So when your fuckface bully holds anything related to that era of bigotry, while refusing to flat out condemn it, it can only mean a couple of things. He is a fucking bigot, or he doesn't care whom he gets support from as long as he wins. I think it is a combo of both.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 11:04 am
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(October 17, 2018 at 11:01 am)alpha male Wrote: (October 17, 2018 at 10:55 am)Khemikal Wrote: IDK if the tweet was the best career move....
Jorm said something similar. People on the far right wouldn't be voting for a Dem anyway. By saying this could be bad for his career, you're acknowledging that moderates could reasonably draw the same conclusion.
If by "the same conclusion" you mean they might conclude Ellison isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, you're probably right. If by the same conclusion you mean that Ellison supports violent extremists, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe, maybe not. It would be somewhat of a moot point if they draw the first conclusion.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 11:05 am
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(October 17, 2018 at 11:01 am)alpha male Wrote: (October 17, 2018 at 10:55 am)Khemikal Wrote: IDK if the tweet was the best career move....
Jorm said something similar. People on the far right wouldn't be voting for a Dem anyway. By saying this could be bad for his career, you're acknowledging that moderates could reasonably draw the same conclusion.
Sure...but without the "reasonably" part. If/that "moderates" might draw the same conclusion has more to do with what you howler monkeys are babbling about at any given moment. Nothing will change the fact that no one in this fever dream supports antifa. Not ellison, not the dem establishment, not the liberal establishment (which includes your silly ass)......not even the author, who at least contends that he's an ideological ally.
They are an illiberal political outgroup by definition and description of purpose. You are an idiot for gobbling down right wing swampwater.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 11:15 am
@ Alpha...........
HERE is proper context of owning relics of symbols of human cruelty of others. Yes this BLACK GUY has Nazi and KKK garb. NOT because he promotes it, but because he knows how to remember the past and defeat hate. DO YOURSELF A FUCKING FAVOR AND WATCH IT!
I am telling you Trump is an opportunist at a minimum. He does not care about blacks OR poor rural whites or farmers. Trump is not this guy.
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RE: An unhinged mob
October 17, 2018 at 11:36 am
(October 17, 2018 at 11:05 am)Khemikal Wrote: Sure...but without the "reasonably" part. If/that "moderates" might draw the same conclusion has more to do with what you howler monkeys are babbling about at any given moment.
No, people who just follow the far right aren't moderates.
Quote:They are an illiberal political outgroup by definition and description of purpose. You are an idiot for gobbling down right wing swampwater.
They try to stop conservative speakers. They recently vandalized a Republican office in New York.
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