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Vegans & meat grown in a lab
#41
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
With whipped cream, of course.
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#42
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
(October 30, 2018 at 11:19 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(October 30, 2018 at 10:46 pm)Fireball Wrote: OM NOM nom, I love fiber!
So eat a coil of hemp rope.

Tongue

I prefer sisal. Hmph
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#43
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
Could always eat an entire wicker patio set, plenty of fiber.  Wink
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#44
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
I support this for several reasons:

1. I love animals, but I also love meat. I also have trouble absorbing plant-based iron so I NEED to eat iron-rich meats every so often. I try to only buy meat that has been pasture raised and humanely cared for, but if this were to become an affordable option, I would gladly make the switch.

2. This sort of technology will one day help enable us to grow organs, limbs, and whatnot for people. No more people dying waiting for a donor or hoping their donated organ isn't rejected--we can just grow em a new one!

And, perhaps this will one day give us an alternative to animal testing.
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#45
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
This was not the worst idea ever, you know!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46042314

Quote:Waitrose Food: Editor William Sitwell resigns over 'killing vegans' row
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#46
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
(October 31, 2018 at 10:47 am)Khemikal Wrote: Could always eat an entire wicker patio set, plenty of fiber.  Wink

However, if you do and later find yourself gassy and out in public, you should first release a test fart, lest you subject others to a fart that could strip the varnish off a foot locker, a fart that could end a marriage.  Tut Tut
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#47
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
Quote:He sat down.
The waiter approached.
'Would you like to see the menu?' he said,
'or would you like meet the Dish of the Day?'

'Huh?' said Ford.
'Huh?' said Arthur.
'Huh?' said Trillian.
'That's cool,' said Zaphod, 'we'll meet the meat.'

- snip -

A large dairy animal approached Zaphod Beeblebrox's table,
a large fat meaty quadruped of the bovine type with
large watery eyes, small horns and what might almost have
been an ingratiating smile on its lips.

'Good evening', it lowed and sat back heavily on its haunches,
'I am the main Dish of the Day. May I interest you in the parts
of my body?'

It harrumphed and gurgled a bit, wriggled its hind quarters in
to a more comfortable position and gazed peacefully at them.

Its gaze was met by looks of startled bewilderment from
Arthur and Trillian, a resigned shrug from Ford Prefect and
naked hunger from Zaphod Beeblebrox.

'Something off the shoulder perhaps?' suggested the animal,
'Braised in a white wine sauce?'

'Er, your shoulder?' said Arthur in a horrified whisper.

'But naturally my shoulder, sir,' mooed the animal contentedly,
'nobody else's is mine to offer.'

Zaphod leapt to his feet and started prodding and feeling
the animal's shoulder appreciatively.

'Or the rump is very good,' murmured the animal. 'I've been
exercising it and eating plenty of grain, so there's a lot
of good meat there.'

It gave a mellow grunt, gurgled again and started to chew
the cud. It swallowed the cud again.

'Or a casselore of me perhaps?' it added.

'You mean this animal actually wants us to eat it?' whispered
Trillian to Ford.

'Me?' said Ford, with a glazed look in his eyes, 'I don't mean
anything.'

'That's absolutely horrible,' exclaimed Arthur, 'the most revolting
thing I've ever heard.'

'What's the problem Earthman?' said Zaphod, now transferring his
attention to the animal's enormous rump.

'I just don't want to eat an animal that's standing there
inviting me to,' said Arthur, 'It's heartless.'

'Better than eating an animal that doesn't want to be
eaten,' said Zaphod.

'That's not the point,' Arthur protested. Then he thought about it
for a moment. 'Alright,' he said, 'maybe it is the point. I don't
care, I'm not going to think about it now. I'll just ... er ... I
think I'll just have a green salad,' he muttered.

'May I urge you to consider my liver?' asked the animal,
'it must be very rich and tender by now, I've been force-feeding
myself for months.'

'A green salad,' said Arthur emphatically.

'A green salad?' said the animal, rolling his eyes disapprovingly
at Arthur.

'Are you going to tell me,' said Arthur, 'that I shouldn't have
green salad?'

'Well,' said the animal, 'I know many vegetables that are
very clear on that point. Which is why it was eventually
decided to cut through the whole tangled problem and breed
an animal that actually wanted to be eaten and was capable of
saying so clearly and distinctly. And here I am.'

It managed a very slight bow.

'Glass of water please,' said Arthur.

'Look,' said Zaphod, 'we want to eat, we don't want to make
a meal of the issues. Four rare stakes please, and hurry.
We haven't eaten in five hundred and seventy-six thousand
million years.'

The animal staggered to its feet. It gave a mellow gurgle.
'A very wise choice, sir, if I may say so. Very good,' it
said, 'I'll just nip off and shoot myself.'

He turned and gave a friendly wink to Arthur.
'Don't worry, sir,' he said, 'I'll be very humane.'

It waddled unhurriedly off to the kitchen.

— From the book "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe" by Douglas Adams
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#48
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
(October 31, 2018 at 12:50 pm)Nakara Wrote: I also have trouble absorbing plant-based iron so I NEED to eat iron-rich meats every so often. I try to only buy meat that has been pasture raised and humanely cared for, but if this were to become an affordable option, I would gladly make the switch.

That's how it usually is with all people so that's why one of the best sources of iron for vegans/ vegetarians is food fried in an iron pan - like eggs.

Also if we're quoting books, like Jörmungandr, then here is something that Penn Jillette wrote in his book about his life change and weight loss and mistakes about the food he made

Quote:When we took our first bite of corn, there was no weeping or giggling; there were belly laughs. It was shocking. It was nothing like any corn I’d ever tasted. It was sweet like candy. It was red-glossy-cracking-candy-apple-coating-at-the-fair sweet. It was maple-sugar-on-snow-in-New-England-with-my-sister sweet. It was baked-Alaska-and-sugar-straight-out-of-the-packet-at-a-diner-as-a-child sweet. And it wasn’t just sweet, either. Those ears of corn had so many flavors. Those ears of corn were sweet like life. [...] Two weeks of potatoes had knocked us out of our heads. We were out of our fucking crazy food-is-fat-sugar-salt dream world. Corn used to have no flavor at all for me. It was just fat and salt, because I’d always covered it in butter and salt. Corn tasted just like popcorn, and popcorn tasted just like lobster, and steak, and every other salty, fatty food, which was every food I ate.
[...]
Corn is crazy sweet on its own, as long as you haven’t spent years beating your senses of taste, smell, and hunger with fat, sugar, and salt. We were ready to taste food in a whole new way.
[...]
All my tastes changed after those two weeks of potatoes. Foods that I used to not like or have much of an opinion about became my favorites. Every kind of mushroom had a different flavor, and each individual mushroom had slight differences. One batch of Brussels sprouts tasted different from another from the same store. Fruit had variety among species and individuals.
[...]
L.A. has the only vegan restaurant I’ve found where I can eat. It’s called Real Food Daily. I’ll write later about why I hate vegan restaurants—and a lot of stuff on RFD’s menu falls under that rubric—but they’ve got one thing that’s perfect: the “Real Food Meal.” It’s brown rice, beans, daily greens, land and sea vegetables, pressed salad, and a choice of one dressing or sauce. I get a little bit of peanut sauce on the side and eat just a couple of drops. This is a big bowl of food. Just a huge bowl. And when I was there I had two of them. I had two huge bowls of food. It’s just so good and so filling. I didn’t use the peanut sauce, but I sprinkled some Tabasco over eveything. I was very happy with my two bowls of food, and when I ended up back in Vegas, my scale agreed, too.
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#49
RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
I have no issue with vegans. If that is how they want to live, that is their choice.

I do have a problem with the evangalist vegans.
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RE: Vegans & meat grown in a lab
(November 1, 2018 at 11:01 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I have no issue with vegans. If that is how they want to live, that is their choice.

I do have a problem with the evangalist vegans.

Quote:In addition to the ethical question of our treatment of animals, there is now a powerful new argument for a vegan diet. Ever since Frances Moore Lappé published Diet for a Small Planet in 1971, we have known that modern industrial animal production is extremely wasteful. Pig farms use six pounds of grain for every pound of boneless meat they produce. For beef cattle in feedlots, the ratio is 13:1. Even for chickens, the least inefficient factory-farmed meat, the ratio is 3:1.

Lappé was concerned about the waste of food and the extra pressure on arable land this involves, since we could be eating the grain and soybeans directly, and feeding ourselves just as well from much less land. Now global warming sharpens the problem. Most Americans think that the best thing they could do to cut their personal contribution to global warming would be to swap their family car for a fuel-efficient hybrid like the Toyota Prius. Gidon Eshel and Pamela Martin, researchers at the University of Chicago, have calculated that while this would indeed lead to a reduction in emissions of about 1 ton of carbon dioxide per driver, switching from the typical US diet to a vegan diet would save the equivalent of almost 1.5 tons of carbon dioxide per person. Vegans are therefore doing significantly less damage to our climate than those who eat animal products.

— Ethics in the Real World: 82 Brief Essays on Things That Matter, Peter Singer.

Are you in favor of global warming?
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