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Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 4:29 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:23 pm)no one Wrote: Jesus suffers every time someone chokes a chicken, or spanks a monkey, or paddles the pink canoe, or finger paints.

I'm sorry.

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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 4:38 pm
Jesus gave up his long weekend for your sins.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The whole notion of infinite punishment for finite transgressions is abhorrent.  The Catholics tried to get round it by inventing purgatory.  The idea was that if you were bad, but not REALLY bad enough for Hell, you could go to purgatory and people could pay for your soul.  Purgatory involved physical pain, just not the eternal suffering of Hell.

In secular terms, let's say Joe murders his wife, but all Jim does is cheat on his taxes.  If both die unshriven, Joe goes straight to hell and is pretty well fucked.  Jim, on the other hand, might just have to spend 10 000 years being lashed with chains dipped in acid for knowingly failing to disclose the NZ$50 his neighbour paid him for mending the shed.

See?  Catholicism makes sense!!

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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 4:55 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(November 16, 2018 at 4:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The whole notion of infinite punishment for finite transgressions is abhorrent.  The Catholics tried to get round it by inventing purgatory.  The idea was that if you were bad, but not REALLY bad enough for Hell, you could go to purgatory and people could pay for your soul.  Purgatory involved physical pain, just not the eternal suffering of Hell.

In secular terms, let's say Joe murders his wife, but all Jim does is cheat on his taxes.  If both die unshriven, Joe goes straight to hell and is pretty well fucked.  Jim, on the other hand, might just have to spend 10 000 years being lashed with chains dipped in acid for knowingly failing to disclose the NZ$50 his neighbour paid him for mending the shed.

See?  Catholicism makes sense!!

Boru
FTFY.  Wink

How very indulgent of you!

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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 5:04 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 3:51 pm)Kit Wrote: Jesus suffered for a weekend.  Big deal.

Presumably even during that weekend omnipotence would not be too inconvenienced by mere suffering.
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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 5:55 pm
(November 16, 2018 at 4:23 pm)no one Wrote: Jesus suffers every time someone chokes a chicken, or spanks a monkey, or paddles the pink canoe, or finger paints.

Not every time.

Jesus and I have an understanding: I carry on, and he minds his own fucking business.
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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 6:55 pm
At the end of a waterslide is a split into 2 pools. One is cool clean water, one is lava and once you're in you can't get out. It's like the langoliers where everything you've already done gets eaten away and only the 2 pools are left. Your argument is that the guy at the top of the slide, that is telling you to go right and not left to the lava, is not trying hard enough to stop you from making a stupid choice?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 6:59 pm (This post was last modified: November 16, 2018 at 7:00 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
Quote:Your argument is that the guy at the top of the slide, that is telling you to go right and not left to the lava, is not trying hard enough to stop you from making a stupid choice?

That's EXACTLY the argument, and it's a damned good one (no pun intended).

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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 7:13 pm
God as willy wonka.

"Oh no, please....stop....don't"

lol.
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RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 16, 2018 at 7:21 pm
God is more like Willy Wanker.



Quote:if we presume it happened.

That's one hell of an IF there.
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