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Is religion simply more about control than a god?
#21
RE: Is religion simply more about control than a god?
(December 18, 2018 at 2:26 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(December 17, 2018 at 5:13 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No it's not; Buddhist monks are an example.

So Buddhist monks are an example of pure religion. Oh well I guess they keep those hundreds of thousands of Muslims in concentration camps as part of their religion.



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#22
RE: Is religion simply more about control than a god?
(December 19, 2018 at 3:42 am)Maketakunai Wrote:
(December 18, 2018 at 2:26 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So Buddhist monks are an example of pure religion. Oh well I guess they keep those hundreds of thousands of Muslims in concentration camps as part of their religion.



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Not sure what the racist Hindu Gandhi has to do with the pissing contest between Muslims and Buddhists, but OK.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#23
RE: Is religion simply more about control than a god?
(December 19, 2018 at 9:26 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 19, 2018 at 3:42 am)Maketakunai Wrote: You might be interested in this...

Not sure what the racist Hindu Gandhi has to do with the pissing contest between Muslims and Buddhists, but OK.

Boru

I don't know how long you've been an atheist. I've been one for almost 40 years. Mostly, I just get tired of referencing folks like Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris when someone brings up people who have issues with Muslims and the religion of Islam. Gandhi adds to the argument whether you're pro-suicide vest or not.
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#24
RE: Is religion simply more about control than a god?
Maketakunai, what this has to do with is that Buddhists believe that their Buddha represents the best thing in the universe: he is all the love in the world, he brings the balance to the world, he is all the goodness in the world, he is every epithet imaginable.
So much so that to them Buddha is not just some guy but simply all the good in the world and they cannot understand anyone that can refuse Buddha, because how can someone reject "all the good that is in the world?" "That person must be evil."
So to the Buddhist monks Buddha rejecting Muslims are not even human beings, because they reject all the good that is in the world.

Needless to say that most religions have that stance toward their gods/ persons of worship. For instance there is a scene in Mel Brooks' "History Of The World, Part I" where Mel Brooks plays the Grand Inquisitor Torquemada and he is torturing Jews while singing:

We're gonna teach them wrong from right

We're gonna help them see the light


And that is the exact mentality of the Christians (especially in the past) toward Jews. They cannot understand that Jews can know wrong from right and be "spiritual" like them while at the same time rejecting "all the Goodness" that Jesus represents and ridiculing the "good" Jesus. Most Christians feel the creeps when they meet a person that hasn't been baptized.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Is religion simply more about control than a god?
(December 16, 2018 at 5:51 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: Why is there religion in the first place? Aren't we all the same? Can't we all speak to God? I mean that is what the bible says. Why is it someone has to be an "authority" when it comes to religion? Why do they need followers? Why do they need money? Isn't the relationship with god between God and yourself? i.e. 1 on 1? It also seems there A LOT of rules when it comes to religion. I grew up in the Mormon faith, and I can tell you there were sooo many rules. Like does God honestly care with what you put in your body?

Religion is control while Christianity as the bible/Christ and paul describes it freedom from the law as a means to righteousness.
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