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December 30, 2018 at 1:54 am
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Hi,
I'm here out of desperation. I'm hoping someone can help me. I thought I was saved (a Christian) for 11 years. In that time, everything I did was for God. Then I pray this prayer, asking God to show me what was causing my long-term anxiety and depression. Do you know what He shows me?! He shows me that I was never really saved in the first place and that I never can be because I got married when He told me not to. I did exactly what the Rich Young Ruler in the Bible did if you don't mind looking up the story. I have had anxiety and depression ever since I have been together with my husband so I know this relationship was not God's will. I remember God telling me that I would go to hell if I married him but I didn't believe Him because that sounds ridiculous. Also, I thought you got saved by believing that Christ died for your sins, which I did do before I married my husband. Upon further study of the scriptures there are TONS of conditions you have to meet in order to be saved. There are SO MANY works, yet Christians say it's not by works. Christians say that salvation is FREE but they are LIARS because salvation is NOT free. Only those willing to pay the price get to go to heaven and that number is few. I am so pissed. I even went to my pastor and his wife before I got married for help because I was unsure of my salvation as well as the marriage I was about to enter into. I need help. When I first found out I was going to hell, I cried in my room for 2 years. I've spent this 3rd year trying unsuccessfully to learn how to function again. I have 4 beautiful children who need me. I wish I could just become and atheist and be done with this but I can't. I had actual encounters with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I can't deny Him. I can't walk around disabled, unable to function, and hyperventilating all the day long. I didn't know God was so cruel. Please help me, I don't know what to do. I need to live a good & productive life.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 2:13 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 2:18 am
Be well.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 2:26 am
If you start at the most logical point - assuming that the xtian god is just a human invention, just like all other gods you might care to mention - you' ll find your problem quickly solves itself.
I hope this helps.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 4:42 am
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 6:42 am
(December 30, 2018 at 1:54 am)lookinforhope Wrote: Hi,
I'm here out of desperation. I'm hoping someone can help me. I thought I was saved (a Christian) for 11 years. In that time, everything I did was for God. Then I pray this prayer, asking God to show me what was causing my long-term anxiety and depression. Do you know what He shows me?! He shows me that I was never really saved in the first place and that I never can be because I got married when He told me not to. I did exactly what the Rich Young Ruler in the Bible did if you don't mind looking up the story. I have had anxiety and depression ever since I have been together with my husband so I know this relationship was not God's will. I remember God telling me that I would go to hell if I married him but I didn't believe Him because that sounds ridiculous. Also, I thought you got saved by believing that Christ died for your sins, which I did do before I married my husband. Upon further study of the scriptures there are TONS of conditions you have to meet in order to be saved. There are SO MANY works, yet Christians say it's not by works. Christians say that salvation is FREE but they are LIARS because salvation is NOT free. Only those willing to pay the price get to go to heaven and that number is few. I am so pissed. I even went to my pastor and his wife before I got married for help because I was unsure of my salvation as well as the marriage I was about to enter into. I need help. When I first found out I was going to hell, I cried in my room for 2 years. I've spent this 3rd year trying unsuccessfully to learn how to function again. I have 4 beautiful children who need me. I wish I could just become and atheist and be done with this but I can't. I had actual encounters with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I can't deny Him. I can't walk around disabled, unable to function, and hyperventilating all the day long. I didn't know God was so cruel. Please help me, I don't know what to do. I need to live a good & productive life.
Well there is no god to begin with. I can say that confidently because there is zero evidence to support there being one of any stripe.
Once you realise that you can see that all your problems are not a thing.
So go and live what would be a good and productive life and stop worrying about trying to appease a non-existent thing.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 6:47 am
God is not cruel.
God cares not about you.
God does not exist.
Live Well, by your own devices.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 7:30 am
Hate to state the obvious but it sounds like you need to leave him. I'll let you choose which one. Maybe both.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 7:38 am
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(December 30, 2018 at 1:54 am)lookinforhope Wrote: Hi,
I'm here out of desperation. I'm hoping someone can help me. I thought I was saved (a Christian) for 11 years. In that time, everything I did was for God. Then I pray this prayer, asking God to show me what was causing my long-term anxiety and depression. Do you know what He shows me?! He shows me that I was never really saved in the first place and that I never can be because I got married when He told me not to. I did exactly what the Rich Young Ruler in the Bible did if you don't mind looking up the story. I have had anxiety and depression ever since I have been together with my husband so I know this relationship was not God's will. I remember God telling me that I would go to hell if I married him but I didn't believe Him because that sounds ridiculous. Also, I thought you got saved by believing that Christ died for your sins, which I did do before I married my husband. Upon further study of the scriptures there are TONS of conditions you have to meet in order to be saved. There are SO MANY works, yet Christians say it's not by works. Christians say that salvation is FREE but they are LIARS because salvation is NOT free. Only those willing to pay the price get to go to heaven and that number is few. I am so pissed. I even went to my pastor and his wife before I got married for help because I was unsure of my salvation as well as the marriage I was about to enter into. I need help. When I first found out I was going to hell, I cried in my room for 2 years. I've spent this 3rd year trying unsuccessfully to learn how to function again. I have 4 beautiful children who need me. I wish I could just become and atheist and be done with this but I can't. I had actual encounters with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I can't deny Him. I can't walk around disabled, unable to function, and hyperventilating all the day long. I didn't know God was so cruel. Please help me, I don't know what to do. I need to live a good & productive life.
It sounds to me like you have issues with depression, anxiety, and suggestibility which have nothing at all to do with religion. And now you've tried your best to interpret your problems by your religious beliefs, and the results have made you even more anxious and confused. You likely need a mental health professional rather than some random internet people advising you.
From my atheistic perspectives:
There is no God, so you couldn't have met him. You likely just had emotional and delusional experiences, as many people do.
There is no hell, so there's no reason to worry about it.
Christianity makes no sense, which is likely why you can't figure out a reasonable interpretation.
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RE: damned
December 30, 2018 at 8:58 am
(December 30, 2018 at 1:54 am)lookinforhope Wrote: Hi,
I'm here out of desperation. I'm hoping someone can help me. I thought I was saved (a Christian) for 11 years. In that time, everything I did was for God. Then I pray this prayer, asking God to show me what was causing my long-term anxiety and depression. Do you know what He shows me?! He shows me that I was never really saved in the first place and that I never can be because I got married when He told me not to. I did exactly what the Rich Young Ruler in the Bible did if you don't mind looking up the story. I have had anxiety and depression ever since I have been together with my husband so I know this relationship was not God's will. I remember God telling me that I would go to hell if I married him but I didn't believe Him because that sounds ridiculous. Also, I thought you got saved by believing that Christ died for your sins, which I did do before I married my husband. Upon further study of the scriptures there are TONS of conditions you have to meet in order to be saved. There are SO MANY works, yet Christians say it's not by works. Christians say that salvation is FREE but they are LIARS because salvation is NOT free. Only those willing to pay the price get to go to heaven and that number is few. I am so pissed. I even went to my pastor and his wife before I got married for help because I was unsure of my salvation as well as the marriage I was about to enter into. I need help. When I first found out I was going to hell, I cried in my room for 2 years. I've spent this 3rd year trying unsuccessfully to learn how to function again. I have 4 beautiful children who need me. I wish I could just become and atheist and be done with this but I can't. I had actual encounters with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I can't deny Him. I can't walk around disabled, unable to function, and hyperventilating all the day long. I didn't know God was so cruel. Please help me, I don't know what to do. I need to live a good & productive life.
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