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Christian trigger words
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(January 9, 2019 at 11:09 pm)tackattack Wrote: As we are reasoning beings, Very little of what we actually chose to do is without reason. You may not like my reasons or have another standard, but I can have reason and faith. What I can't have is Faith and Evidence that is seen or complete understanding of, because, by that's how the Bible defines faith. I have evidence for lots of things in my life, I have reasons for almost everything, I have subjective observations and a partially complete understanding that rises above the level of plausible, indications for a God, IMO.

To simplify I'll just reword statements Having faith is an admission that the belief is not provable and Faith is a way of attaining knowledge when materialism alone can't get you there. This seems to be an atheist trigger word, so pardon if this is off topic.

Faith is a way of attaining knowledge? As in make believe?

And lol, atheist trigger words. Keep on trying.
Jesus is like Pinocchio.  He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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(January 10, 2019 at 9:37 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote:
(January 9, 2019 at 11:09 pm)tackattack Wrote: As we are reasoning beings, Very little of what we actually chose to do is without reason. You may not like my reasons or have another standard, but I can have reason and faith. What I can't have is Faith and Evidence that is seen or complete understanding of, because, by that's how the Bible defines faith. I have evidence for lots of things in my life, I have reasons for almost everything, I have subjective observations and a partially complete understanding that rises above the level of plausible, indications for a God, IMO.

To simplify I'll just reword statements Having faith is an admission that the belief is not provable and Faith is a way of attaining knowledge when materialism alone can't get you there. This seems to be an atheist trigger word, so pardon if this is off topic.

Faith is a way of attaining knowledge?  As in make believe?

And lol, atheist trigger words.  Keep on trying.

There are plenty of theists throughout history I find to be heros to humanity. Humans who display compassion and empathy for others. Martian Luther King Jr, Ann Frank and Malala would be great examples. But, I do not agree that their actions, that serve as a good example for humanity, are coming from a divine source from above. 

Humans do not have to, as you put it "make believe" that good is some super natural outside source. Our behaviors are not a product of the divine world, but have always been in us. It is still up to our species how we interact with each other.
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(January 10, 2019 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 9:37 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Faith is a way of attaining knowledge?  As in make believe?

And lol, atheist trigger words.  Keep on trying.

There are plenty of theists throughout history I find to be heros to humanity. Humans who display compassion and empathy for others. Martian Luther King Jr, Ann Frank and Malala would be great examples. But, I do not agree that their actions, that serve as a good example for humanity, are coming from a divine source from above. 

Humans do not have to, as you put it "make believe" that good is some super natural outside source. Our behaviors are not a product of the divine world, but have always been in us. It is still up to our species how we interact with each other.

So you are the determining factor?
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(January 10, 2019 at 12:36 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: There are plenty of theists throughout history I find to be heros to humanity. Humans who display compassion and empathy for others. Martian Luther King Jr, Ann Frank and Malala would be great examples. But, I do not agree that their actions, that serve as a good example for humanity, are coming from a divine source from above. 

Humans do not have to, as you put it "make believe" that good is some super natural outside source. Our behaviors are not a product of the divine world, but have always been in us. It is still up to our species how we interact with each other.

So you are the determining factor?

What the f? Where did I claim I was the center of the universe? 

No, what is going on with you, is that you are simply not used to people challenging your claims. Saying "that was then, this is now" is all I am doing. I am sorry someone sold you old mythology, but again, that is your baggage not mine.

How much time have you taken to "determine" that Apollo is not real? How much time have you taken to "determine" that Thor is not real?

There ARE good humans worldwide of every religion. I only dispute where humans think our ability to do good and be good is coming from. 

Someone sold you the idea that you needed a super cognition with super powers to manipulate life an the universe. I don't think you need that bad claim. I think humans are doing it, and humans are all we have, if we want to solve the problems of the world, and reduce conflict. 

The only difference between you and I is that I reject one more god claim than you do. Understand why you rightfully reject all other god claims, besides the one you hold, then you should quite easily understand why I reject yours as well.

It should not frighten you one bit that this is it, and no super hero is helping humans.
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(January 10, 2019 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 9:37 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Faith is a way of attaining knowledge?  As in make believe?

And lol, atheist trigger words.  Keep on trying.

There are plenty of theists throughout history I find to be heros to humanity. Humans who display compassion and empathy for others. Martian Luther King Jr, Ann Frank and Malala would be great examples. But, I do not agree that their actions, that serve as a good example for humanity, are coming from a divine source from above. 

Humans do not have to, as you put it "make believe" that good is some super natural outside source. Our behaviors are not a product of the divine world, but have always been in us. It is still up to our species how we interact with each other.

Believing in good and believing in God are different things. There's no reason to believe that God exists. If you make yourself believe it, that's make believe.
Jesus is like Pinocchio.  He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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(January 10, 2019 at 12:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 12:36 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: So you are the determining factor?

What the f? Where did I claim I was the center of the universe? 

No, what is going on with you, is that you are simply not used to people challenging your claims. Saying "that was then, this is now" is all I am doing. I am sorry someone sold you old mythology, but again, that is your baggage not mine.

How much time have you taken to "determine" that Apollo is not real? How much time have you taken to "determine" that Thor is not real?

There ARE good humans worldwide of every religion. I only dispute where humans think our ability to do good and be good is coming from. 

Someone sold you the idea that you needed a super cognition with super powers to manipulate life an the universe. I don't think you need that bad claim. I think humans are doing it, and humans are all we have, if we want to solve the problems of the world, and reduce conflict. 

The only difference between you and I is that I reject one more god claim than you do. Understand why you rightfully reject all other god claims, besides the one you hold, then you should quite easily understand why I reject yours as well.

It should not frighten you one bit that this is it, and no super hero is helping humans.

You determined all this off a question?  Then I guess I rightfully asked - "So you are the determining factor?"

How many things did you determine in your statement -

- Good people worldwide of every religion
- Someone sold me the idea of super cognition to manipulate life and the universe
- I don't need a claim + must be bad.
- Humans are doing it and all we we have to solve problems and reduce conflicts
- Reject one more "god claim" is our only difference.
- I reject all other god claims.
- I should easily understand based on the prior matter you determined.
- It should not frighten me.
- No super hero helping humans.

Anything else you would like to determine?
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