FFRF is pissing off Ham and the Christians..... again.

[LostLocke]

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Makes no sense to "you."  Our independence was declared unanimously.  If the signatures by those representing......

Accept not everyone supported indepdence and not everyone had the same idea of what that meant

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Was 100% of the colonial population in support of separating from Britian? Yes or no.

Nope 15 to 30 percent  opposed and most of them fled north to Canada to avoid the issues they had .

Oh, I know you Know Amarok. I just want to see how long it takes him to actually answer the simple question and not go on some tangent about the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which has nothing to do with the question being asked.
Unless, everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence was the totality of the colonial population....

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Makes no sense to "you."  Our independence was declared unanimously.  If the signatures by those representing......

Was 100% of the colonial population in support of separating from Britian? Yes or no.

Doesn't matter.  They didn't establish our independence.  Our nation isn't the product of their disagreement with the founding fathers.  Most of them died, fled, or were imprisoned.

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Accept not everyone supported indepdence and not everyone had the same idea of what that meant

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Nope 15 to 30 percent  opposed and most of them fled north to Canada to avoid the issues they had .

Oh, I know you Know Amarok. I just want to see how long it takes him to actually answer the simple question and not go on some tangent about the signing of the Declaration of Independence, which has nothing to do with the question being asked.
Unless, everyone who signed the Declaration of Independence was the totality of the colonial population....

I did answer your question.  If you don't like the answer, too bad.  It's still my answer.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Doesn't matter. 

What little credibility you may have had (I could have missed it) ended right there.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Doesn't matter. 

What little credibility you may have had (I could have missed it) ended right there.

Cool.  Have a good one and be well.

[LostLocke]

I did answer your question.  If you don't like the answer, too bad.  It's still my answer.

At no point did you answer the question. You kept going off on some tangential diatribe anytime I or anyone else asked you this question without a direct answer.

Here, I'll do it myself:
"Did 100% of the colonial population support independence from Britain?"
"No."

See how easy that is? I don't understand what your reluctance to say "no" was. Especially since when it was first mention by, whoever, I don't remember because that feels like about 5 years ago, they mentioned the *population*, NOT the government or colonies themselves.


Now that that's over, let's go back to the real point of this thread.
The government violated the Constitution.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

What little credibility you may have had (I could have missed it) ended right there.

Cool.  Have a good one and be well.

You don't know how.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Cool.  Have a good one and be well.

You don't know how.

Cool. Enjoy the rest of your week.

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I did answer your question.  If you don't like the answer, too bad.  It's still my answer.

At no point did you answer the question. You kept going off on some tangential diatribe anytime I or anyone else asked you this question without a direct answer.

Here, I'll do it myself:
"Did 100% of the colonial population support independence from Britain?"
"No."

See how easy that is? I don't understand what your reluctance to say "no" was. Especially since when it was first mention by, whoever, I don't remember because that feels like about 5 years ago, they mentioned the *population*, NOT the government or colonies themselves.


Now that that's over, let's go back to the real point of this thread.
The government violated the Constitution.

I don't answer people with the answer they want, because it's not my answer.  If you want a specific answer, then answer yourself.

We don't have a government based on the loyalists.  As anybody, they're entitled to their opinion.  Our laws today are based on our founding fathers being unified in declaring us.  It doesn't mean I think the Loyalists were wrong or that their views weren't valid, but it's not relevant to us today.  if so, we would be a British state.

The government violates the constitution if it makes any law against the free practice of any religion.  They can't force you to adhere to a belief and they can't penalize you for doing so.  Regardless, the government is still part of the state, and those wards represent our interest, including their own.  As such, they are entitled to act with the same religious freedom as anybody else. That is per the U.S. Constitution.

Personally, I have no problem with atheists being given support by the government, just as anybody else.  If an atheist works for the government, then equally so.  But they also need to regard the rights of everybody else to freely practice their belief.  When we all respect each others belief, even though we might disagree on the fine details, then we live free and united.  There were clearly two things are founding fathers didn't want.  Division and a bloated government controlling the people.  Yet, somehow we've been gradually heading in that direction.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

May you lead an interesting life.