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Question about Pam Reynolds famous Near Death Experience
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‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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OP, believe what you want to believe. I'll never believe any reported NDE experience as evidence for a soul or after life. 

It's simply unexplained brain/mind activity around an event that may or may not have occurred during the so called NDE.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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(January 19, 2019 at 2:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 19, 2019 at 2:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's the trouble, innit?  These are claims.  I can claim to be King Of The Potato People.  The claim is not subject to dispute, since you aren't going to find any of my loyal subjects to interrogate.

Boru

Read the article; some of Mr. Walton's companions saw the alien saucer.

No, some of Mr. Walton's companions claimed they saw an alien saucer.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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First of all, why is there an automatic jump to the soul as soon as we can't explain something like this? You're basically saying "If I can prove something is not-A, then it must be B." Just because you can prove what something is not does not automatically prove what is it. That only works if we KNOW there are only two options and we KNOW what both those options are. Like a traditional light switch. If you can prove the switch is "not off" it is safe to assume that the switch is "on". What you're doing is working with a dimmer switch, and by proving that the switch is "not off" you then assume the switch must be at 100% power, even though there is also 1% -  99% power in addition to 100%.

Maybe it's not a soul that leaves the body. What if when your brain is put into a this deep of a state of unconsciousness, it experiences a time anomaly. Maybe from your reference frame nothing left your body, but instead you are really there and observing it from a different temporal perspective. That wouldn't require any god or any soul.
And if that idea sounds too ridiculous, why would a soul sound any better? Especially since all we've learned about time so far. It does get all wonky and wibbly-wobbly when you really observe it, and best of all, we already know that (at least to some extent) it exists, unlike a soul.
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(January 19, 2019 at 3:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 19, 2019 at 2:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Read the article; some of Mr. Walton's companions saw the alien saucer.

No, some of Mr. Walton's companions claimed they saw an alien saucer.

Boru

Pam Reynolds was in the same category, someone who claimed something beyond the natural World.

It snowed where I live this morning (eastern Iowa); I saw a snow plow that went down my street at least 2 times around 6 AM CST, but after that, none have come back, as large portions of the empty street remain unplowed.  Does anyone here doubt my claim?
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(January 19, 2019 at 3:44 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Pam Reynolds was in the same category, someone who claimed something beyond the natural World.

It snowed where I live this morning (eastern Iowa); I saw a snow plow that went down my street at least 2 times around 6 AM CST, but after that, none have come back, as large portions of the empty street remain unplowed.  Does anyone here doubt my claim?

Not really, but it's not on the same level as "soul" or "NDE". There are no additional ramifications if I believe or not. If you claim did have more serious implications (like alien snow plow abduction) then I'd certainly be questioning your claim.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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