Non-discrimination for atheists

[The Grand Nudger]

Uh-huh...and riddle me this.  What would the point of trying to do away with civil protections, for example the endless litany of hate bakers, be..if it weren't understood by everyone involved - on either side- that in the absence of explicit protections somebody would definitely, absolutely, and as soon as humanly possible try to discriminate on those grounds?

After all, what law says they can't? Try to be less disingenuous or less of an idiot, whichever comes easiest, assuming either is even remotely possible.

[Drich]

Uh-huh...and riddle me this.  What would the point of trying to do away with civil protections, for example the endless litany of hate bakers, be..if it weren't understood by everyone involved - on either side- that in the absence of explicit protections somebody would definitely, absolutely, and as soon as humanly possible try to discriminate on those grounds?

After all, what law says they can't?  Try to be less disingenuous or less of an idiot, whichever comes easiest, assuming either is even remotely possible.

why this concern for discrimination on such a small scale a thing?

you referenced hate bakers.. there are 3 that I could find that made the news... seriously do we REALY need all inclusive laws to protect us from 3 people? how about this.. take your business some place else... are you all so glutton for punishment that you want the house "special butter nut cream'" infused into your confections??? How insane is it to make a food service person angry when they are doing prep behind closed doors.

Speaking of discrimination... what happens when you all are the discriminators? should there be law protecting christians and forcing you people to make choices based not on religious or political views?

For instance I asked for help with a project in the computing part of the site and got an overwhelming no based on conflict of religious beliefs... the same exact excuse the "hate bakers" for not wating to bake a gay wedding cake.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot where are my protections? or don't I get any because that what these laws are really about?? When infact these laws are a way to force religious people off of a deeply held belief

Again in Portland the land of atheism there is no discrimination.. the only reason for this law is so atheist can walk around with a chip on their should bullying Christians to knock it off.

you people are the WORST type of hypocrite. wanting protection from the very same vitriol you perpetrate onto others. You want protection from 3 hate bakers found nation wide.. while I have 15 people with in 24 hours on this site with holding services from me, on the very same grounds.. Do I bitch about it? do I seek to make any of you do this work? no.. I suck it up and simply take my money some place it will spend.

The difference between us? not everyone has to think as I do in this world. I'm ok with people hating koreans. I hate them too some times I'm ok with people hating whites black and Latino just because, why? because again not everyone has had the same experience set as I have with people of different races, or maybe growing up into a single race (having the same color mother and father) makes you feel a comfort I will never know while people out side that shade make you afraid in a way I again will never know. It is not up to me to tell you what to think or to tell you the way you think is bad or good.

The same for me goes with religion as well... If I thought you are where any less human I would not be here. which is why I foolishly assumed at least a hand full of you would at least express an interest in this project. As I am not forced to see you as evil I don't see other Christians who do not agree with me as evil either. but because you do... make realy no major difference to me. I will just keep doing what I do till one of you who hates me gets into a position of power garners enough support to get ride of me... Then I will simply move on to the next site. I would never concent to a law or a mandate that forces compliant thought, have you people never read 1984?

you all are marching down a totalitarian path, one I want no part of. and if that means I might here a black joke or maybe find out my state rep was dressed up like the fresh prince/will smith in black face or I can't buy a cake or ice cream from some gay/gae "creamery" then   so be it. I'd rather live in a world where men can be men and women can be women whites can be white and blacks can be black without shame or pressure from the oppressive governement defining those roles.

[downbeatplumb]

From being barred from office. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimina...t_atheists

Arkansas

Article 19, Section 1
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."[102]

Maryland

Article 37
"That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution."[103]

Mississippi

Article 14, Section 265
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."[104]

North Carolina

Article 6, Section 8
"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."[105]

South Carolina

Article 17, Section 4
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."[106]

Tennessee

Article 9, Section 2
"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."[107]

Texas

Article 1, Section 4
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Be


There is much much more but you wont believe it anyway.

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How does the OP's artical start???

It says PORTLAND Considers....

Now you ignorant slut... what do all the places you listed have in common? PORTLAND IS NOT LOCATED IN THOSE STATES!!!

so rest the little jack in a box you call a brain and try again.

You  asked about discrimination towards atheists I posted examples of discrimination against atheists
heres more 

[/url] A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists#cite_note-78][78] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[79][80] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[81] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[82] The studies also showed that rejection of atheists was related to the respondent's lack of exposure to diversity, education and political orientations.[83] Atheists and atheist organizations have alleged discrimination against atheists in the military,[84][85][86][87][88][89] and recently, with the development of the Army's Comprehensive Soldier Fitness program, atheists have alleged institutionalized discrimination.[90][91] In several child custody court rulings, atheist parents have been discriminated against, either directly or indirectly. As child custody laws in the United States are often based on the subjective opinion of family court judges, atheism has frequently been used to deny custody to non-religious parents on the basis that a parent's lack of faith displays a lack of morality required to raise a child.[92][93]
Prominent atheists and atheist groups have said that discrimination against atheists is illustrated by a statement reportedly made by George H. W. Bush during a public press conference just after announcing his candidacy for the presidency in 1987.[54][94][95][96] When asked by journalist Robert Sherman about the equal citizenship and patriotism of American atheists, Sherman reported that Bush answered, "No, I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God."[54][96][97] Sherman did not tape the exchange and no other newspaper ran a story on it at the time.[54]
George H. W. Bush's son, George W. Bush, responded to a question about the role of faith in his presidency during a November 3, 2004 press conference, "I will be your president regardless of your faith. And I don't expect you to agree with me, necessarily, on religion. As a matter of fact, no president should ever try to impose religion on our society. The great – the great tradition of America is one where people can worship the – the way they want to worship. And if they choose not to worship, they're just as patriotic as your neighbor."[98]
On December 16, 2016, President Barack Obama signed H.R. 1150, an amendment to the Frank R. Wolf International Religious Freedom Act. It includes protections for "non-theistic beliefs, as well as the right not to profess or practice any religion at all."[99]

[Dr H]

Portland Considers Protection Against Discrimination For Atheists, Agnostics

Gee, I thought they'd never ask...

Other coverage:

https://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/41...-protected

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown...rtland-law

glob...

discrimination from what? walking though a store with Christmas decorations?!?!

seeing fish on a fast food menu?

someone saying god bless when you sneeze?

Employment discrimination, among other things.

When  I was a kid, if you were a public school teacher and it was discovered that you were an atheist, you could lose your job and be blackballed from the system.  Still happens.

Eight US states still have a religious test written into their constitutions, which excludes atheists from holding public office.  Article I, Section 4 of the Texas state constitution, for example:

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification on to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

Protection from being stererotyped and scapegoated.

Protection from being denied custody of their children.

Protection of their freedom to volunteer in their communities.

Protection of their right of free speech.

Protection of their right to organize and assemble.

Protection of their right to participate in organizations essentially open to the public -- except for atheists.

Among other things.


As can be seen from past treatment of blacks, Hispanics, Jews, women, gays, and others, when protections for civil rights are not made explicit in law, they are frequently ignored for perceived minorities.

Portland, Oregon represents a small beginning, but any push for equal rights has to start somewhere.  Might as well be here.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Uh-huh...and riddle me this.  What would the point of trying to do away with civil protections, for example the endless litany of hate bakers, be..if it weren't understood by everyone involved - on either side- that in the absence of explicit protections somebody would definitely, absolutely, and as soon as humanly possible try to discriminate on those grounds?

After all, what law says they can't?  Try to be less disingenuous or less of an idiot, whichever comes easiest, assuming either is even remotely possible.

For instance I asked for help with a project in the computing part of the site and got an overwhelming no based on conflict of religious beliefs...

The 'overwhelming no' had nothing to do with your religious belief.  If an atheist posted here asking for help in making a video pushing the case that radioactive decay is a myth, s/he would have been turned down with the same amount of ridicule that you met with.

Boru

[Drich]

glob...

discrimination from what? walking though a store with Christmas decorations?!?!

seeing fish on a fast food menu?

someone saying god bless when you sneeze?

Employment discrimination, among other things.

When  I was a kid, if you were a public school teacher and it was discovered that you were an atheist, you could lose your job and be blackballed from the system.  Still happens.

Eight US states still have a religious test written into their constitutions, which excludes atheists from holding public office.  Article I, Section 4 of the Texas state constitution, for example:

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification on to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

Protection from being stererotyped and scapegoated.

Protection from being denied custody of their children.

Protection of their freedom to volunteer in their communities.

Protection of their right of free speech.

Protection of their right to organize and assemble.

Protection of their right to participate in organizations essentially open to the public -- except for atheists.

Among other things.


As can be seen from past treatment of blacks, Hispanics, Jews, women, gays, and others, when protections for civil rights are not made explicit in law, they are frequently ignored for perceived minorities.

Portland, Oregon represents a small beginning, but any push for equal rights has to start somewhere.  Might as well be here.

  None of these things are an issue.. lest you forget I was an atheist and I never once out side of my mom wanting to pray for me was EVER an issue.. You whole post is just another example of the post millennial pussifying of america. why don't you do all of us a favor pack this baggage back up and wait for a president and or supreme court willing to give you rights you already have.. Meaning give you what you really want the freedom to persecute others who do not think as you do.

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For instance I asked for help with a project in the computing part of the site and got an overwhelming no based on conflict of religious beliefs...

The 'overwhelming no' had nothing to do with your religious belief.  If an atheist posted here asking for help in making a video pushing the case that radioactive decay is a myth, s/he would have been turned down with the same amount of ridicule that you met with.

Boru

retard Your's was one of the 2 idealism rejections I got on page 1!!! Meaning you are 1 of only 2 people who refused to help because of content that did not align with what you believe.

[LastPoet]

Coming from you, that's rich drippy.

Dunning-Kruger FTW.

[LastPoet]

retard Your's was one of the 2 idealism rejections I got on page 1!!! Meaning you are 1 of only 2 people who refused to help because of content that did not align with what you believe.

No, your idea of a video does not align with science.

And "retards" are people with learning disability and other cognitive problems. They have no fault for being like that and some strive and succeed in life, getiing to be much more than you, that willingly self lobotomize yourself with your little fantasy of an invisible sky wizard that just happens to think as horribly as you do.

Now, go grab a pinecone and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine, you lousy piece of shit.

[Drich]

Coming from you, that's rich drippy.

Dunning-Kruger FTW.

are you one of the last people who truly does not understand the irony of dunning kruger effect?

If you put yourself in a position to judge someone else as being subject to dunning kruger effect when in fact you yourself undeservingly place yourself in a position of importance or authority, to make such a call without any of the tools Doctors would use to make this same diagnosis..

 that this effect is actually describing. That my retarded, yet egotistically bloated self appointed judge, makes YOU the only person here demonstrating the dunning-kruger traits.

How can I say ths? because dunning-kruger is a legit diagnosable condition that takes a doctor of phycology several tests to diagnosis. You are no doctor and you have not administered any tests, there for you are untrained Ie: displaying cognitive bias in which you of low ability/untrained,  have illusory superiority/can make a diagnosis without tests or cited examples, and mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. meaning you think you can discern what it takes a doctor a series of tests or a collection of recorded behavior to discern...

See the irony yet retard?

Do you see how you fail?

1) you are no doctor

2) you have no properly vetted or diagnosed examples

3) you based on your self inflated authority and position makes a diagnosis based on your word. and not cited example.

How does the win feel now with a big ole slice of humble pie?

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retard Your's was one of the 2 idealism rejections I got on page 1!!! Meaning you are 1 of only 2 people who refused to help because of content that did not align with what you believe.

No, your idea of a video does not align with science.

And "retards" are people with learning disability and other cognitive problems. They have no fault for being like that and some strive and succeed in life, getiing to be much more than you, that willingly self lobotomize yourself with your little fantasy of an invisible sky wizard that just happens to think as horribly as you do.

Now, go  grab a pinecone and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine, you lousy piece of shit.

I was in the 1980s diagnosed as "retarded." which stuck with me till I graduated Even now here you 'good people remind me of it all the time.'
 So that is what we in LD or SLD classes called ourselves. So me calling you retarded is like a black guy calling another black guy the n-word. because if I being diagnosed can see a point that you can not then to me it is clear you are a kindred spirit.

Now that said my theory does indeed completely assimilates anything science can come up with as far as origins or evolution. with again not changing a word of the bible. Just how it is read..and if you can't wrap your little mind around that, then you are indeed mentally slower than a diagnosed retarded person. So if I'm retarded what does that make you someone who needs a cartoon to understand?

[downbeatplumb]

I was in the 1980s diagnosed as "retarded." which stuck with me till I graduated Even now here you 'good people remind me of it all the time.'
 So that is what we in LD or SLD classes called ourselves. So me calling you retarded is like a black guy calling another black guy the n-word. because if I being diagnosed can see a point that you can not then to me it is clear you are a kindred spirit.

Now that said my theory does indeed completely assimilates anything science can come up with as far as origins or evolution. with again not changing a word of the bible. Just how it is read..and if you can't wrap your little mind around that, then you are indeed mentally slower than a diagnosed retarded person. So if I'm retarded what does that make you someone who needs a cartoon to understand?

Were you ever undiagnosed as retarded or does the diagnosis stand?