[Serious] fact finding mission for non-Christians

[Simon Moon]

This is a post for any non-Christian to list their top 3 things they would like to explain to Christians. It can be top three reasons God doesn't exist. It can be top three reasons the Bible is wrong. The top three reasons Religion is bad for society. etc. ad nauseum. To keep it brief though, this post really isn't about combatting those things. I'm just interested in compiling a list what non-Christians would like Christians to know. I'd like the posts to not be ranting ramblings, so if you have multiple lists, please try and post them on a separate post. I'd like to keep the top three list of whatever category you'd like to express in simple bullets, but feel free to elaborate as much as you need to on each of your three points.

1. Religious faith is not a virtue. It is indistinguishable from gullibility.

2. If god has the attributes of the 4 omnis, that means he created the universe, knowing all along there would be billions of his creation that would not believe he exists, and thereby destined to Hell. And yet he created us anyway. In other words, he created me, knowing before I was born, that I would be a nonbeliever, subject to infinite punishment, yet he created me anyway.

3. The Bible (Gospels) were written by unknown authors, who were not eyewitnesses, decades or more after the alleged events they report. John 8:7, Luke 22:44, Mark 16:17, Mark 16:18, Mark 16:9-20 were not original to the Bible. All added much later.

Tough to keep it to only 3...

[Yonadav]

1) I would say the same thing over and over again for years on end, as if I imagine that no one's ever said it before.

2) I would say the same thing over and over again for years on end, as if I imagine that no one's ever said it before.

3) I would say the same thing over and over again for years on end, as if I imagine that no one's ever said it before.

[Athene]

As a non-believer, none of this shit applies to me.
That's all.

I don't really care what folk's believe so long as they act like they've got some sense and stay in their lane.
Under normal circumstances, I don't regards people's personal beliefs as being any of my business.

[fredd bear]

As a non-believer, none of this shit applies to me.
That's all.

I don't really care what folk's believe so long as they act like they've got some sense and stay in their lane.
Under normal circumstances, I don't regards people's personal beliefs as being any of my business.

Yup.

But then they come here---------

[Shell B]

As a non-believer, none of this shit applies to me.
That's all.

I don't really care what folk's believe so long as they act like they've got some sense and stay in their lane.
Under normal circumstances, I don't regards people's personal beliefs as being any of my business.

Yup.

But then they come here---------

They're welcome here.

[Yonadav]

As a non-believer, none of this shit applies to me.
That's all.

I don't really care what folk's believe so long as they act like they've got some sense and stay in their lane.
Under normal circumstances, I don't regards people's personal beliefs as being any of my business.

Yup.

But then they come here---------

An atheist forum needs some theists. When The Thinking Atheist shut down and Atheist Discussion was started, none of the theism pushing theists went over to AD.  The AD members were suffering pretty bad withdrawal symptoms. They were like, "Troll me Yonadav. Troll me! I need it so bad. I haven't had it in so long!" And I was like, "Hey, relax baby! I'm not that kind of theist." I think those people were literally becoming physically ill because they weren't getting to testify their atheism to any theists for a really long time.

[Angrboda]

I don't really have anything specific. The only thing would be to suggest they try to understand how unconscious biases influence our thinking, but nobody ever listens when I do. The best I get is a tu quoque back as if I'm making an argument.

[Mister Agenda]

1. You can accept biological evolution as the best-supported and most likely explanation for the diversity of life on Earth and still be a Christian. Hundreds of millions of Christians do.
2. Separation of Church and State protects Christians as much as it does religious minorities, and the idea of separation may even be a contributing factor to the USA being the most Christian developed country. It's not broke for any of us, so don't fix it.
3. Participation in politics as a voting block has corrupted the Christian Right, and is contributing to its decline. Christians in America had a good thing going until they tried to dominate the government which is supposed to work equally for all of us.

[fredd bear]

Edit; previously answered

[GrandizerII]

Only thing that comes to mind right now. Understand what Bayes' theorem is about. You don't need to understand the mathy bit but it would be nice if you could see how valuable it is as a tool to judge whether or not naturalism is a better explanation than Christianity and/or other forms of theism. We all, subconsciously and consciously, use it in our everyday lives for many decision-making incidents. But I feel like, when it comes to theism, many Christians either dismiss this tool out of hand or they misuse it by omitting very important and relevant details in their analyses.