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San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
#51
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
(March 5, 2019 at 10:32 am)EgoDeath Wrote:
(March 5, 2019 at 10:23 am)viocjit Wrote: Original question : Expunged convictions will be destroyed or still be readable on NCIC (National Crime Information Center) or and others systems ?"

Rewriting of the question : Expunged convictions will be destroyed or someone will still be able to access these for specific reasons like someone convicted who apply for some work like lawyer , judge , police officer etc... ?
Also , I want to know if criminal records will note if a person have an expunged conviction related to cannabis.

Here in the US, having your record expunged is usually just for the purpose of finding employment. If a crime is expunged, future employers will not be able to see a record of your crime in your background check. However, if you get into trouble and have to stand in front of a judge, FOR ANY REASON, that judge will CERTAINLY see that you were previously arrested for cannabis possession.

Expungement does nothing to wipe the record for the law enforcement/judicial systems.

It's mainly just for finding employment - having your record expunged helps you find a job because the crime won't show up in your background check, that's it.

Nothing to add to the topic.  Just want to say that I seriously love the new name.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#52
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
(March 5, 2019 at 12:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 5, 2019 at 10:32 am)EgoDeath Wrote: Here in the US, having your record expunged is usually just for the purpose of finding employment. If a crime is expunged, future employers will not be able to see a record of your crime in your background check. However, if you get into trouble and have to stand in front of a judge, FOR ANY REASON, that judge will CERTAINLY see that you were previously arrested for cannabis possession.

Expungement does nothing to wipe the record for the law enforcement/judicial systems.

It's mainly just for finding employment - having your record expunged helps you find a job because the crime won't show up in your background check, that's it.

Nothing to add to the topic.  Just want to say that I seriously love the new name.

Boru

Oh, okay. Have had numerous psychedelic experiences that lead to ego death, hence the name.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#53
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
What was that like?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#54
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
I could describe the symptoms, but attempting to describe the actual experience is nearly impossible. I'm not sure I could give you any explanation or report that would do it justice. Best I could tell you is read up on psychedelics/meditation and ego death. Or, if you ever take a heroic dose of LSD, psilocybin or DMT, you'll learn for yourself.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#55
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
(March 5, 2019 at 10:32 am)EgoDeath Wrote:
(March 5, 2019 at 10:23 am)viocjit Wrote: Original question : Expunged convictions will be destroyed or still be readable on NCIC (National Crime Information Center) or and others systems ?"

Rewriting of the question : Expunged convictions will be destroyed or someone will still be able to access these for specific reasons like someone convicted who apply for some work like lawyer , judge , police officer etc... ?
Also , I want to know if criminal records will note if a person have an expunged conviction related to cannabis.

Here in the US, having your record expunged is usually just for the purpose of finding employment. If a crime is expunged, future employers will not be able to see a record of your crime in your background check. However, if you get into trouble and have to stand in front of a judge, FOR ANY REASON, that judge will CERTAINLY see that you were previously arrested for cannabis possession.

Expungement does nothing to wipe the record for the law enforcement/judicial systems.

It's mainly just for finding employment - having your record expunged helps you find a job because the crime won't show up in your background check, that's it.

In the case of San Francisco. Stuff related to cannabis aren't illegal anymore.
I know having your record expunged is usually just for the purpose of finding employment but does nothing to wipe the record for the law enforcement / judicial systems but I don't know if in San Fran records will be wiped.
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#56
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
(March 6, 2019 at 10:29 am)EgoDeath Wrote: I could describe the symptoms, but attempting to describe the actual experience is nearly impossible. I'm not sure I could give you any explanation or report that would do it justice. Best I could tell you is read up on psychedelics/meditation and ego death. Or, if you ever take a heroic dose of LSD, psilocybin or DMT, you'll learn for yourself.

I ask because it never panned out for me the way people describe it.  I'm not exactly what you'd call a stranger to psychedelics.  I've always been fascinated by stories of people who've had transformative experiences.

I just got high.

I tried ayahuasca once and heard the thing They™ always say. That's something...I guess.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#57
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
Take enough LSD and your perception will be utterly but temporarily.....altered. Unknown dosage being a thing, 4-8 hits of blotter acid has severely bent my reality. I can't explain it adequately either.
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#58
RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
(March 6, 2019 at 2:59 pm)viocjit Wrote:
(March 5, 2019 at 10:32 am)EgoDeath Wrote: Here in the US, having your record expunged is usually just for the purpose of finding employment. If a crime is expunged, future employers will not be able to see a record of your crime in your background check. However, if you get into trouble and have to stand in front of a judge, FOR ANY REASON, that judge will CERTAINLY see that you were previously arrested for cannabis possession.

Expungement does nothing to wipe the record for the law enforcement/judicial systems.

It's mainly just for finding employment - having your record expunged helps you find a job because the crime won't show up in your background check, that's it.

In the case of San Francisco. Stuff related to cannabis aren't illegal anymore.
I know having your record expunged is usually just for the purpose of finding employment but does nothing to wipe the record for the law enforcement / judicial systems but I don't know if in San Fran records will be wiped.

I always assume that the courts can see anything. So even if the laws are different now, there will still be some record or arrests/convictions available to law enforcement and the courts, I'm sure. Expungement doesn't really do anything, to be honest, except help you find work.

(March 6, 2019 at 11:26 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I ask because it never panned out for me the way people describe it. I'm not exactly what you'd call a stranger to psychedelics. I've always been fascinated by stories of people who've had transformative experiences.

I just got high.

I tried ayahuasca once and heard the thing They™ always say. That's something...I guess.

Psychedelics give you whatever you put into them. If your only intent when dropping acid is to laugh with your friends, listen to Led Zeppelin and look at the colors and patterns morphing on your carpet and walls, that's probably the experience you have, unless you've taken enough to rocket yourself past that point.

That being said, high doses are not necessary to have ego-weakening experiences. Complete ego-death is, however, usually found at higher doses.

I've found, after tripping many times over many years, I can now experience ego-death at much lower doses. It's sort of "opened the flood gates" I suppose.


(March 7, 2019 at 1:56 am)Jackalope Wrote: Take enough LSD and your perception will be utterly but temporarily.....altered. Unknown dosage being a thing, 4-8 hits of blotter acid has severely bent my reality. I can't explain it adequately either.

Most LSD I ever took was 20+ hits at once time. I have no clue how many micrograms each hit was (anyone who claims to is probably full of it) but I know it was an insane experience.

Have you found that you can get effects, that usually happen from higher doses, on lower doses now that you've had that more intense experiences? Like I said to Gae I've found that high doses have sort of "opened the flood gates" for me and I can now have very intense, introspective meditation sessions on quite low doses of LSD and psilocybin.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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