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Belief
#11
RE: Belief
(March 20, 2019 at 2:28 pm)Catharsis Wrote:
(March 20, 2019 at 2:25 pm)robvalue Wrote: I’ve yet to be convinced by anyone that I should care about any creator, its wishes or what it finds meaningful. Whether there is such a creator is therefor not important to me.

You always will.

I always will what? Be yet to be convinced? Indeed I will if no one even tries anymore.
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#12
RE: Belief
-ah..yes, but, you see, some christers think that by being mouthbreathing idiots in front of other people they have discharged all heavenly duty....lol.
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#13
RE: Belief
I can summarise the main arguments I’ve been given before. I wonder if anyone has something new since I’ve been away.

1) You’ll be rewarded for doing so and/or punished if you don’t.

Don’t care. It can do what it likes to me anyway, it has no reason to stick to its word. I’d rather worry about helping the humans/animals around me than the amusement of some bored super-creature, and I won’t compromise that while I have a choice in the matter.

2) Don’t you want to learn about it or have a relationship with it?

Sure, I’ll happily do both, if it presents itself on sensible terms. I’m just not interested in subjugating myself. Nor am I interested in other people speaking on its behalf.

3) Stuff about morality

Well, if "morality" is measured by the whims of some external being, it’s not a metric I’m interested in.
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#14
RE: Belief
(March 20, 2019 at 2:50 pm)robvalue Wrote:
(March 20, 2019 at 2:28 pm)Catharsis Wrote: You always will.

I always will what? Be yet to be convinced? Indeed I will if no one even tries anymore.

You will always be yet to be convinced.
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#15
RE: Belief
(March 20, 2019 at 3:01 pm)Catharsis Wrote:
(March 20, 2019 at 2:50 pm)robvalue Wrote: I always will what? Be yet to be convinced? Indeed I will if no one even tries anymore.

You will always be yet to be convinced.

You can read my mind, or see the future?

I guess you’re not even going to try then. Calling everyone else a troll is a bit rich when you’ve nothing at all to say in your own thread.
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#16
RE: Belief
(March 20, 2019 at 2:58 pm)robvalue Wrote: 2) Don’t you want to learn about it or have a relationship with it?

Sure, I’ll happily do both, if it presents itself on sensible terms. I’m just not interested in subjugating myself. Nor am I interested in other people speaking on its behalf.

That's very contradictory.

Having a relationship with it means subjugating.
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#17
RE: Belief
...............?

I don't have to genuflect to my wife.

You sound like the kindof person who should look into a sexclub, Catharsis. You clearly need a Dom. Apparently, that;s the only way you can conceive of a relationship of any kind. Kinky.

Is daddy god gonna spank you for being a failure here at AF...will you enjoy it?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#18
RE: Belief
(March 20, 2019 at 3:01 pm)Catharsis Wrote: You will always be yet to be convinced.

Have you considered that your arguments may be lacking? I do understand what is reality, and what is a fantasy, because in dreams, you wake up.
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#19
RE: Belief
Quote:Believing is a verb

It's a gerund, actually.  None of the rest of your post warrants a reply.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#20
RE: Belief
Obv. troll is obv.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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