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RE: The NEW 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible
January 23, 2011 at 11:59 am
He's a jesus spamming shithead. We had a moron who called himself Churchwork over at Jesus Never Existed ( which has a no-banning policy) and he managed to get himself banned there, He was always posting bullshit like this. Over at Internet Infidels he is known as "serial bannee Troy Brooks".
It doesn't say much for jesus to have followers like this dickhead.
Infinite Regress is Impossible 1. We observe trillions and trillions of cause and effects in nature, and no hard evidence something comes from nothing, which is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. If there was an infinite regress you would have happened already having had an eternity do so. And you would never have existed because the past would continue to go on for eternity never reaching this point. As you can see, infinite regress in all its varieties (e.g. cycles, mutiverses) is inherently contradictory and therefore, false.
Something Can't Come From Nothing 2. Something can't come from nothing (non-existence) either, because that which does not exist can't cause anything. Nothing always leaves nothing from nothing. Energy can be neither created nor destroyed. It can only change forms. In any process in an isolated system, the total energy remains the same. Since that which does not exist has no energy, it cannot produce a singularity for the universe. Many times I have heard atheists say, "The properties of the universe are different from the whole, so the composition doesn't abide in cause and effect when it was brought into being." Of course, this is doublespeak because for something to be "brought into being" requires a cause.
A Mind is Needed to Create a Mind 3. Since nature can't always have existed nor start up from nothing, there must exist that which is outside of nature, that is, outside of time and space which always existed. This is whom we call the uncreated Creator. If you want to compare an always existing timeless singularity to the uncreated Creator, simply observe what we know that that which doesn't have a mind, will, emotion, conscience, intuition, or self-consciousness can't produce that which does. The lesser can never produce the greater. There has not even been enough interatomic interactions in the history of the universe to be able to do so. If you claim time is needed to bring about this universe from a singularity but the singularity has no time then this universe would never have existed if a causeless singularity existed.
The Resurrection Proves Jesus is God 4. Now that we know the uncreated Creator exists, we can compare. A God who is accessible and personal is better than one that is not. Only in Christianity do we find God enters His creation and dies for the sins of the world and proves He is our Creator by resurrecting Himself from the dead which can only occur supernaturally. Since almost all skeptical scholars concede for good reasons the disciples truly believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings and there are no naturalistic explanations that can account for the origin of the disciples beliefs (having exhausted them all), we should submit ourselves to this evidence, because if a person doesn't, they will surely go to Hell according to Jesus our Creator.
Some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. I can't even begin to count the logical fallacies above. Also, thanks for giving me a good laugh due to your complete lack of understanding of physics.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
RE: The NEW 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible
January 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm (This post was last modified: January 23, 2011 at 7:50 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
(January 23, 2011 at 11:59 am)Minimalist Wrote: He's a jesus spamming shithead. We had a moron who called himself Churchwork over at Jesus Never Existed ( which has a no-banning policy) and he managed to get himself banned there, He was always posting bullshit like this. Over at Internet Infidels he is known as "serial bannee Troy Brooks".
It doesn't say much for jesus to have followers like this dickhead.
Ah,thanks Min,you've just given me a couple of sites to look at with a view to inflicting myself on them.
A no banning policy is a bit of a worry. It's great to be able to call a spade fucking shovel. However, it also means it could also be like "Raving Atheists Forum"" which has the nastiest collection of dead cunts I've ever come across in one place. (on the net)
RE: The NEW 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible
January 23, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Min, "Jesus never existed' is David Ickes' forum? Too bad,I avoid atheist gurus. On reflection,the postitive claim title is a bit of a turn off.
However, I Googled 'Atheist Infidels" Its' now called "Free Thought and Rationalism Discussion Board". I've registered as padraic.Having trouble activation the account and have emailed their admin.
RE: The NEW 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible
January 23, 2011 at 11:15 pm
(January 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm)padraic Wrote:
(January 23, 2011 at 11:59 am)Minimalist Wrote: He's a jesus spamming shithead. We had a moron who called himself Churchwork over at Jesus Never Existed ( which has a no-banning policy) and he managed to get himself banned there, He was always posting bullshit like this. Over at Internet Infidels he is known as "serial bannee Troy Brooks".
It doesn't say much for jesus to have followers like this dickhead.
Ah,thanks Min,you've just given me a couple of sites to look at with a view to inflicting myself on them.
A no banning policy is a bit of a worry. It's great to be able to call a spade fucking shovel. However, it also means it could also be like "Raving Atheists Forum"" which has the nastiest collection of dead cunts I've ever come across in one place. (on the net)
Yeah, a No-Banning policy didn't exactly help back when I was on NewspeakDictionary. Especially not when one of the mods turned troll all of a sudden, insulting everyone who wasn't himself (It's a very long and very upsetting story for me.)
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
RE: The NEW 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible
February 12, 2011 at 5:27 am
its like saying "you don't know so obviously what I think is true" which of course isn't true. It reminds my of Richard Dawkins when he is like "do I really have to explain this again?" I just gets old.
RE: The NEW 4 Step Perfect Proof for God of the Bible
February 14, 2011 at 12:35 am
I always like to get into the "reward-incentive" subject when debating theists because somewhere inside them, I think they all realize that the motivation for eternal life is fundamentally greedy and selfish. No creationist ever has a reasonable rebuttal for this. They can only spout off some bull shit about Jesus "atoning for our sins," thus giving humanity a chance at Heaven. And then it really gets interesting when I tell them how Christianity is the most popular religion because it's the most CONVENIENT. What could be simpler? Live how you want, just believe, and YOU'RE IN!!! (What a fucking joke!) I get blasted on my blog all the time for bringing up examples like Ghandi going to Hell, but the Son of Sam serial killer "repenting" thus deserving Heaven. Anyway, regarding the initial post about the "Four proofs," I don't even think I have to comment about how illogical it is to say that "nothing can come from nothing," yet say that God just "always" existed. Creationists just love letting God "off the hook."
"Faith: not wanting to know what is true."
-Friedrich Nietzsche