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Part of Notre Dame on fire.

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Part of Notre Dame on fire.
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RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 16, 2019 at 12:05 pm
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RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 17, 2019 at 9:57 am
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RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 17, 2019 at 10:05 am
It wasn't a fire, it's just that the lid came off hell!
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RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 17, 2019 at 11:26 am
Questions for anyone who can answer. 

One of the saved "artifacts" is the alleged thorn crown the church claims was worn by the Jesus character. Any history on when the church "acquired" it? And from the very short clips in the news, is it gold gilded? It looks like it was to me.
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#45
RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 18, 2019 at 10:26 am
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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#46
RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 18, 2019 at 10:32 am
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RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 18, 2019 at 12:37 pm
(April 18, 2019 at 10:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: So basically, if I am reading this correctly, this is yet another manufactured object well after the alleged claimed event, and hardly a first hand account.

Manufacturing evidence is obstruction of justice.
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#48
RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 18, 2019 at 12:42 pm
(April 18, 2019 at 12:37 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote:
(April 18, 2019 at 10:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: So basically, if I am reading this correctly, this is yet another manufactured object well after the alleged claimed event, and hardly a first hand account.

Manufacturing evidence is obstruction of justice.

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#49
RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 18, 2019 at 12:42 pm
(April 18, 2019 at 12:37 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote:
(April 18, 2019 at 10:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: So basically, if I am reading this correctly, this is yet another manufactured object well after the alleged claimed event, and hardly a first hand account.

Manufacturing evidence is obstruction of justice.

Um not sure what you mean by that. 

But I would agree and say that in all of antiquity, in every religion it was quite common to concoct stories and relics to create a false image of credibility. Even today in food marketing, if you go read the labels of certain food items like orange juice, you end up looking at the nutrition label and the "so called" item is mostly sugar and water.

Marketing is why religions survive, just like any other product.
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RE: Part of Notre Dame on fire.
April 18, 2019 at 1:04 pm
(April 18, 2019 at 10:32 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 18, 2019 at 10:26 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_thorns


If you look more closely at the image in the article linked above it looks like the gold is a circlet built to house the crown itself, not that the crown itself is gold-leafed, but that's totally a guess on my part.  This is as much googling as I care to do this morning.

So basically, if I am reading this correctly, this is yet another manufactured object well after the alleged claimed event, and hardly a first hand account.

There isn't enough in the article to support the claim that the crown was manufactured 'well after the alleged claimed event', and the section quoted only details how it got to Notre Dame. If the Passion narrative in the Synoptics is accurate (meaning Jesus was crowned with a ring of thorns), then the relic could conceivably be genuine.

But I wouldn't place a bet on it.

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