Fox News’ Father Jonathan Morris is Quitting the Priesthood So He Can Have Sex

[Fake Messiah]

It's so funny how superior most of you think you are with your fancy book a learn-n.

Did somone say "the Dunning-Kruger effect"?

Hasn't anyone every point out we just have different names than what the science boys call things? We are all talking about the same things even same source or you will insist on a source that real makes no never mind to us, but because you think you've named something differently it no longer exists the way God says it does. Do you understand what shakespeare meant when he said a rose by any other name would smell jut as sweet?

He means it is not what you call a rose that gives it it's smell. it is what the rose is that makes it smell sweet, so no matter how we understand it the rose or in this case the principles are the same.

The only difference is because you can identify HOW God does something in the natural world it some how precludes God... When in fact it only points to him more indepthly. All your relabeling does it show you how archaic your understanding of an all powerful God has to is. It shows you to be the fool that think God has to be magic in everything he does and creates but if man can understand how the trick works it can't be of God...

Do you even know what you're talking about here? In any case it probably doesn't have to do anything with this topic. It doesn't even have anything to do with my post that you're quoting which was already part of a awry from the topic.

When in fact "science' used to be the holy pursuit of the church

Hmm, I don't know about that. Sure that some monks over the millennia discovered something here and there but that doesn't mean that the Church was pursuing science. Hell, by that logic you could say that shepherds used to pursue science because the first magnet was discovered by a Cretan shepherd named Magnes 4000 years ago.

So prattle on if it helps you feel better about whatever you are compensating for by railing against God.

I'm railing against god because I said how Jesus instructs you to pluck out your eyes if you look at a woman and think she's good looking and then cut off their limbs; as well as live like a bird because God provides the necessities of life - seems rather like you're avoiding to face the nonsense of the Bible and blame me for it.

[Drich]

It's so funny how superior most of you think you are with your fancy book a learn-n.

Did somone say "the Dunning-Kruger effect"?

Hel-lue... it was me who just now referenced the dunning-kruger effect upon those who have to be taught what the rest of us can manage on our own.

Hasn't anyone every point out we just have different names than what the science boys call things? We are all talking about the same things even same source or you will insist on a source that real makes no never mind to us, but because you think you've named something differently it no longer exists the way God says it does. Do you understand what shakespeare meant when he said a rose by any other name would smell jut as sweet?

He means it is not what you call a rose that gives it it's smell. it is what the rose is that makes it smell sweet, so no matter how we understand it the rose or in this case the principles are the same.

The only difference is because you can identify HOW God does something in the natural world it some how precludes God... When in fact it only points to him more indepthly. All your relabeling does it show you how archaic your understanding of an all powerful God has to is. It shows you to be the fool that think God has to be magic in everything he does and creates but if man can understand how the trick works it can't be of God...

Do you even know what you're talking about here? In any case it probably doesn't have to do anything with this topic. It doesn't even have anything to do with my post that you're quoting which was already part of a awry from the topic.

perfect example of "the Dunning-Kruger effect".. You don't know for sure what is being discussed, look at the words you used. "probably doesn't yet you preceed trying to discredit what was said based on your guess?
what a garbage mind you have. otherwise who are you clearly you see yourself and your world view as far superior to anyne elses with no reason or no reason you can or have explained.

When in fact "science' used to be the holy pursuit of the church

Hmm, I don't know about that. Sure that some monks over the millennia discovered something here and there but that doesn't mean that the Church was pursuing science. Hell, by that logic you could say that shepherds used to pursue science because the first magnet was discovered by a Cretan shepherd named Magnes 4000 years ago.

You don't know because when faced with a question you do not research anything. you rely on yourself as a primary source ("the Dunning-Kruger effect") you see your knoweledge as being near complete, meaning when you object and when you doubt these are not just on douche's take this is the way it is... again that is the base defination to the "the Dunning-Kruger effect".

Now one might accuse me of doing the same.. in that when I say something I count is as undisputable truth. but there is a hge difference when I do it and when you do it. When I do it there are at least three points of substantied reference that supports myfindings or my statments.

wiki:
Historically, the Catholic Church has often been a patron of sciences. It has been prolific in the foundation of schools, universities and hospitals, and many clergy have been active in the sciences. Historians of science such as Pierre Duhem credit medieval Catholic mathematicians and philosophers such as John Buridan, Nicole Oresme, and Roger Bacon as the founders of modern science.[1] Duhem found "the mechanics and physics, of which modern times are justifiably proud, to proceed by an uninterrupted series of scarcely perceptible improvements from doctrines professed in the heart of the medieval schools."

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Throughout the late Middle Ages and Renaissance, most scientific leaders were men of the church, They included the great medieval champion of mathematical science Robert Grosseteste (Bishop of Oxford, and the man who reinvigorated the science of geometric optics); the medieval champion of experimental science Roger Bacon (a Franciscan monk, sometimes known as the medieval Galileo); the fifteenth century proto-physicist Nicholas of Cusa (a cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church and the man who first championed the idea of an infinite universe); and Nicholas Copernicus (a canon at Frauenburg Cathedral, and the man who more than any other introduced the idea of a sun-centered cosmos.)

Up until the eighteenth century, most of those in Europe studying science were indeed men of deep religious faith, many of them formally schooled in theology. In part that was because the church controlled the institutes of higher learning - particularly the universities, which had originally been set up as training grounds for the clergy and other church functionaries.

https://www.wordonfire.org/resources/blo...gion/5697/
the above is neil degrasse tyson extoling some of the great works early priest scientist did!

Do you see the diffrences dimwit?

you "i don't think science has anything to do with church so I will make fun of it and minimalize it and try and make your look stupid and discredit you for saying something that does not sound right to me!

And what did I do?

I provided 3 sources that proved you wrong.

Do you see the difference between your Dunning-Kruger dumb fuk-ery where you are the source where what you know is the bench mark, and what I have to say being backed by legit history and fact?

This is not just here sort this is across the board. Every argument you put together is done this way. like wise everything I have to say is done the opposite way! That makes you wrong on just about every time you oppose what I say!

So prattle on if it helps you feel better about whatever you are compensating for by railing against God.

I'm railing against god because I said how Jesus instructs you to pluck out your eyes if you look at a woman and think she's good looking and then cut off their limbs; as well as live like a bird because God provides the necessities of life - seems rather like you're avoiding to face the nonsense of the Bible and blame me for it.

keep reading dummy! not only by this standard of law keeping are we to pluck out our eyes we are to cut off our hands then he even goes further and says if we even think of having sex we are guilty of this sin or if we hate we are guilty of murder, then penality for that is death. by your logic are we to kill ourselves the first time we get cut off in traffic? Or is there a greater point, one that he makes at the end of the chapter? In that in order to be righteous by the law we must be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect.

If you have made one just one mistake/sin ever up to this point you are already disqualified.

If you have sinned and are not perfect you must seek another form of righteousness, one that come from atonement.

[Fake Messiah]

otherwise who are you clearly you see yourself and your world view as far superior to anyne elses with no reason or no reason you can or have explained.

Yeah twist my words but the fact is you just wrote some word salad about smelling the roses and whatnot.

the above is neil degrasse tyson extoling some of the great works early priest scientist did!

Yeah Pope was in power (not something that we actually want) and he eventually allowed scientists to change the calendar which actually shows how christianity fails because all other denominations refused it, like England didn't want to accept it for quite some time because, you know, Christians hate each other. Even today countries under Orthodox denomination use Julian calendar.

So not a good example unless you're desperate and don't have anything else - like you.

not only by this standard of law keeping are we to pluck out our eyes we are to cut off our hands then he even goes further and says if we even think of having sex we are guilty of this sin or if we hate we are guilty of murder, then penality for that is death.

And you call yourself civilized. Lol.

[Drich]

otherwise who are you clearly you see yourself and your world view as far superior to anyne elses with no reason or no reason you can or have explained.

Yeah twist my words but the fact is you just wrote some word salad about smelling the roses and whatnot.

Translation: unga bunga me no understand shakespeare quote, me not know how to apply quote to dis subject. so dat make you stupid because me not know me make fun of one of shakespeare's more popular sayings and dat make me think you dumb..

Well regaurdless of what you understand or clearly don't... others do get the point I made. if you still don't get it ask a question.. stop assuming your understanding is the bar we mus discuss under.

the above is neil degrasse tyson extolling some of the great works early priest scientist did!

Yeah Pope was in power (not something that we actually want) and he eventually allowed scientists to change the calendar which actually shows how christianity fails because all other denominations refused it, like England didn't want to accept it for quite some time because, you know, Christians hate each other. Even today countries under Orthodox denomination use Julian calendar.

So not a good example unless you're desperate and don't have anything else - like you.

hey stupid... Neil Degrasse tyson herolds the gregoreian calander to the point he still says BC and AD because it is a genius level solid example of science in the church!

Not only that in the recent change from bce and ce NOTHING in the calendar changed.. do you understand the scientific significance of that? of course you don't you have a pig farmer intellect and if it is not about slopping and matting pigs you seem to be lost despite pretending to be an expert on every topic.

Well here you go sport here is neil explaining to you why or how this is an incredible feat of scientific understanding way... wayy back then: start @ 3:33 before then he explains why he does not self identify as a atheist!





Did you hear that at 6:37??? Most genius calendar ever devised by man!!! Boom dummy! someone way way smarter than you just annihilated everything you had to say on the subject!

Damn your stupid! why would someone who used themselves as a standard try and debate someone who is a fact checker? again dumb ass I am legit in everything i say and do. I am always on the side of historical fact and truth as i check everything. if what I say seems wrong check it yourself

not only by this standard of law keeping are we to pluck out our eyes we are to cut off our hands then he even goes further and says if we even think of having sex we are guilty of this sin or if we hate we are guilty of murder, then penalty for that is death.

And you call yourself civilized. Lol.
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Unga bung me no understand still! unga bunga me so stupid that me think still you say cut off hand... unga bunga me still don't get jesus is intentionally making it impossible to be a "good moral prson." which means we must atone for sin rather than pretend we not sin

[Fake Messiah]

Well regaurdless of what you understand or clearly don't... others do get the point I made.

Like I said nobody, including you, understands what you wrote.

Neil Degrasse tyson herolds the gregoreian calander to the point he still says BC and AD because it is a genius level solid example of science in the church!

Not only that in the recent change from bce and ce NOTHING in the calendar changed.. do you understand the scientific significance of that?

Actually many nations don't use BC and AD, like China so are you saying they're stupid?

Also many scientists want to change it and consider it confusing

Unga bung me no understand still! unga bunga me so stupid that me think still you say cut off hand... unga bunga me still don't get jesus is intentionally making it impossible to be a "good moral prson." which means we must atone for sin rather than pretend we not sin

It definitely makes you angry and grumpy because you must feel inhibited toward natural urges like sex drive.

[Drich]

Well regaurdless of what you understand or clearly don't... others do get the point I made.

Like I said nobody, including you, understands what you wrote.

Neil Degrasse tyson herolds the gregoreian calander to the point he still says BC and AD because it is a genius level solid example of science in the church!

Not only that in the recent change from bce and ce NOTHING in the calendar changed.. do you understand the scientific significance of that?

Actually many nations don't use BC and AD, like China so are you saying they're stupid?

Also many scientists want to change it and consider it confusing

Unga bung me no understand still! unga bunga me so stupid that me think still you say cut off hand... unga bunga me still don't get jesus is intentionally making it impossible to be a "good moral prson." which means we must atone for sin rather than pretend we not sin

It definitely makes you angry and grumpy because you must feel inhibited toward natural urges like sex drive.

There is a reason I use three sources... that reduces the chance that I am not just reading the parts I want to hear. that I get a good and accurate understanding of what something is and not just what I want to hear...

Like for instance the chinese people use the gregorian calendar just like everyone else.. Now it is is true in rural areas (farming communities they use a lunar calendar.) just like itis true some jews in the us use a lunar calendar, even so it is not right to claim all america uses a lunar calendar just because an isolated portion of the population does!

In fact the nation calendar is officially the gregorian calendar for china!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_calendar
https://www.travelchinaguide.com/essenti...lendar.htm
https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/china/

Do you see how much more polished my arguments are against yours? It is because the words of proof I use are not my own.. did you see where I quoted neil tyson? "greatest calendar made by man???" why did i do that? because it was not my claim and in order for you to refute it you have to find an intellect greater than that of neil degrasse tyson.. Or look like a dumb ass in a personal assault again neil. now you being a stump digger by intellectual design may not know who that is, but if you googled it most of your douche bags would worship everything this man says and does as he is a super science guy.

HE applauds the church for their scientific efforts He applauds them for being able to tack the starts and plot the position of the earth in it's orbit over 1000 years ago He Neil says their ability to locate the earth's relative position and accurately do the calculations to plot out an exact calendar could not be done better today!

Ok douche bag? do you get it? your prejudice and hate toward everything God and church has literally changed history for you in your little ditch digger mind You think science and God are seperate when from the beginning Science was the study of God and how God did things in the natural world. Not only hat I proved it with a large portion of not only history but a flagship Atheist celebrity!!


Here's something to think about when digging the next intellectual ditch you are going to try and make... If I am right and vet trivial things like the church's role in science... How much more right am I about things I have spent my life studying, things like God?

[Amarok]

Neil Degrasse tyson herolds the gregoreian calander to the point he still says BC and AD because it is a genius level solid example of science in the church!

Arbitrarily creating a dating system which isn't that much better then other calendars and could easily have been invented without the church means nothing  

Not only that in the recent change from bce and ce NOTHING in the calendar changed.. do you understand the scientific significance of that?

It's not significant at all

[Fake Messiah]

In fact the nation calendar is officially the gregorian calendar for china!

When did I say it wasn't?

Do you see how much more polished my arguments are against yours?

Actually, they're not. In one post you criticize Catholics for being clueless about Christianity, that they don't know even how to read and then in the next post you praise their educational facilities - needles to say that you contradict yourself because your arguments are just weak ad-hoc gibberish that even you don't take seriously.

The second thing is that Church did not invent the calendar but rather did a little improvement on Julian calendar and called it Gregorian calendar and it took them 300 years to do it. In 1263 Roger Bacon wrote a letter to the pope asking him to adjust the calendar and then in 1582, the Pope made the necessary changes with the advice of the German astronomer, Christopher Clavius. What he did is he decreed a change in the Leap Year system. Every fourth year was still to be Leap Year, but with a few exceptions. Years that ended in a double were not to be Leap Years unless they were divisible by 400. AND that's it - all the rest is the Julian calendar.

But as I said earlier, other Christianities didn't accept the calendar because they considered Catholics as idiots - just as you do in other posts when it suits you, you ad-hoc clown. Denmark and the Protestant parts of Germany and the Netherlands adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1700, but England did not adopt it until September 2, 1752. For many years afterward, the people of England kept both calendars, even though only the Gregorian Calendar was official. Also Greek Orthodox Church itself still refuses to accept the Gregorian Calendar to this day.

But if you want to talk about perfection the Gregorian Year is not perfect, it adds 25 seconds a year and actually Soviet government has adopted a new arrangement of Leap Years that is even more accurate than the Gregorian arrangement.

[Amarok]

In fact the nation calendar is officially the gregorian calendar for china!

When did I say it wasn't?

Do you see how much more polished my arguments are against yours?

Actually, they're not. In one post you criticize Catholics for being clueless about Christianity, that they don't know even how to read and then in the next post you praise their educational facilities - needles to say that you contradict yourself because your arguments are just weak ad-hoc gibberish that even you don't take seriously.

The second thing is that Church did not invent the calendar but rather did a little improvement on Julian calendar and called it Gregorian calendar and it took them 300 years to do it. In 1263 Roger Bacon wrote a letter to the pope asking him to adjust the calendar and then in 1582, the Pope made the necessary changes with the advice of the German astronomer, Christopher Clavius. What he did is he decreed a change in the Leap Year system. Every fourth year was still to be Leap Year, but with a few exceptions. Years that ended in a double were not to be Leap Years unless they were divisible by 400. AND that's it - all the rest is the Julian calendar.

But as I said earlier, other Christianities didn't accept the calendar because they considered Catholics as idiots - just as you do in other posts when it suits you, you ad-hoc clown. Denmark and the Protestant parts of Germany and the Netherlands adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1700, but England did not adopt it until September 2, 1752. For many years afterward, the people of England kept both calendars, even though only the Gregorian Calendar was official. Also Greek Orthodox Church itself still refuses to accept the Gregorian Calendar to this day.

But if you want to talk about perfection the Gregorian Year is not perfect, it adds 25 seconds a year and actually Soviet government has adopted a new arrangement of Leap Years that is even more accurate than the Gregorian arrangement.

Funny thing is most civilizations had something akin to a university Catholicism didn't invent such a concept

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It's so funny how superior most of you think you are with your fancy book a learn-n.

Did somone say "the Dunning-Kruger effect"?

Hasn't anyone every point out we just have different names than what the science boys call things? We are all talking about the same things even same source or you will insist on a source that real makes no never mind to us, but because you think you've named something differently it no longer exists the way God says it does. Do you understand what shakespeare meant when he said a rose by any other name would smell jut as sweet?

He means it is not what you call a rose that gives it it's smell. it is what the rose is that makes it smell sweet, so no matter how we understand it the rose or in this case the principles are the same.

The only difference is because you can identify HOW God does something in the natural world it some how precludes God... When in fact it only points to him more indepthly. All your relabeling does it show you how archaic your understanding of an all powerful God has to is. It shows you to be the fool that think God has to be magic in everything he does and creates but if man can understand how the trick works it can't be of God...

Do you even know what you're talking about here? In any case it probably doesn't have to do anything with this topic. It doesn't even have anything to do with my post that you're quoting which was already part of a awry from the topic.

When in fact "science' used to be the holy pursuit of the church

Hmm, I don't know about that. Sure that some monks over the millennia discovered something here and there but that doesn't mean that the Church was pursuing science. Hell, by that logic you could say that shepherds used to pursue science because the first magnet was discovered by a Cretan shepherd named Magnes 4000 years ago.

So prattle on if it helps you feel better about whatever you are compensating for by railing against God.

I'm railing against god because I said how Jesus instructs you to pluck out your eyes if you look at a woman and think she's good looking and then cut off their limbs; as well as live like a bird because God provides the necessities of life - seems rather like you're avoiding to face the nonsense of the Bible and blame me for it.

There honestly nothing the church did that the pagans before it hadn't already done . Science in the ancient world easily surpassed most of the 500 of Christianity. In fact Christianity's own apocalyptic drivel did much to stall science .

[GUBU]

Wow. I don't think this is significant enough to warrant a Drich "large font" debate. What's going on here is pretty simple.

1) Guy wants to get laid.

2) Guy can't get laid because of weird job requirement.

3) Guy quits job.

4) Guy gets laid.

Which shows remarkable testicular fortitude when you think about it.  He could just go out and get laid and keep his job, like the other shamans.  It's not exactly a state secret that priests are fucking (and not always fucking the right folks, eh..?).  All those nun jokes and nunpron appear to have a solid basis in reality.  Brothels for christian fetishists.  They have their relationships regardless (gay straight and everything in between), and it becomes a dirty less-than-secret-secret by virtue of that alone even if it wouldn't be otherwise.  He's doing the right thing, instead.

For centuries the unspoken (and most important) job role for the housekeeper in the priest's house, always the biggest in an Irish village (paid for and built by us plebs), was to spread her legs on demand.