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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 23, 2019 at 7:07 pm
(May 23, 2019 at 8:44 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (May 23, 2019 at 8:31 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: TOS and TNG were ambiguous, left up to the viewer to decide. Trade paperbacks (and the equally official game universe) go into greater (but not really any more workable, lol) detail.
Broadly, we're all descendants, somehow...maybe.....of that ancient race.....but even they aren't sure of that. Things went horribly awry when they collapsed, lol.
-and it's universal translators that allow us to talk to each othkothker, we all hear and understand whats being said in our native languages.
A universal translator would make anyone talking appear like those Japanese folks in old Godzilla movies that are overdubbed.... Interestingly, George Takei was one of the voice over actors and translators on some of those movies. Rodan was his first one. 1957.
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 23, 2019 at 7:18 pm
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(May 23, 2019 at 5:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Transporters, transwarp drive, universal translators, phasers, quantum torpedoes - but no one seems to have invented the fuse.
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The warp engines are the fuses. That’s why they always blow first to protect those blinkety lights on the bridge.
(May 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (May 23, 2019 at 5:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Transporters, transwarp drive, universal translators, phasers, quantum torpedoes - but no one seems to have invented the fuse.
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Or seatbelts.
Seat belts would remove the dramatic possibility of Lieutenant Uhura falling uphill when all the rest of bridge crew fall down hill as the bridge of the enterprise takes on a sickening drunken list when the enterprise is hit by alien plasma torpedos.
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 23, 2019 at 7:56 pm
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(May 23, 2019 at 2:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Never mind the fact that the whole universe speaks English.......
If two races that evolved on different planets met - wouldn't simple contact likely be fatal for both sides due to bacterial and viral contamination?
After all - we teem with microbes that we are immune to - but an alien wouldn't have that immunity.
Meet, shake hands, dead within hours....
Kinda makes "live long and prosper" moot. The novels have already covered this as well as an episode on Enterprise
1. Most warp capable species already have the medical knowledge to combat illness we would introduce
2. When contacting a even less developed race generally knowledge of dieses is acquired and decontamination and immunization protocols are engaged
3. Interestingly most bacteria and viruses in the trek universe have distinct similarities
4. The Federation by the time of STO freely makes knowledge of immunizations available to avoid and interplanetary epidemic
5. A lot of species were seeded by a single race
(May 23, 2019 at 9:30 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's only meant to address the preponderance of humanoids within the fictional universe, there are tons of non humanoid intelligences in the STU..it's not a workable explanation outside of that or even remotely credible from the perspective of reality, obviously, lol. Actually even non humanoid races were seeded they just aren't from the same stock as the preservers they monkeyed around with few designs
(May 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (May 23, 2019 at 5:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Transporters, transwarp drive, universal translators, phasers, quantum torpedoes - but no one seems to have invented the fuse.
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Or seatbelts. Wouldn't help
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 24, 2019 at 10:47 am
I smell a fellow trek nerd, lol.
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 24, 2019 at 12:10 pm
Plotholes are to test the faithful.
And show them how respect they get,
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 26, 2019 at 1:03 pm
(May 23, 2019 at 2:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: If two races that evolved on different planets met - wouldn't simple contact likely be fatal for both sides due to bacterial and viral contamination?
Not really. Even on Earth do pathogens rarely jump from one species to another because bacteria and viruses evolve alongside their hosts. Although all human diseases seem to have come from animals.
But in Star Trek alien species are so close genetically that they can even mate, so yeah pathogens would be a problem and they do sometimes get them like in "Tuvix" episode but usually they get filtered during teleportation. In prequel show "Enterprise" they didn't have teleportation yet so everyone had to go to some sort of isolation tank to make sure they got cleaned of pathogens.
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 26, 2019 at 1:15 pm
We have developed immunity to so many bugs, but we carry them with us. (I've read that 95% of the human population in the Western Hemisphere died from diseases carried by Europeans.) If one of those bugs find a way to exploit a new host there may be no stopping it.
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 26, 2019 at 1:27 pm
(May 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (May 23, 2019 at 5:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Transporters, transwarp drive, universal translators, phasers, quantum torpedoes - but no one seems to have invented the fuse.
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Or seatbelts.
You know what else nobody invented? Surveillance cameras! I don't know how many ne'er-do-wells were able to sabotage the Enterprise and (even when security determined where the sabotage happened, they weren't able to look up an image of anyone who had gained access to such-and-such part of the ship. (I think TNG was the worst about this.)
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 26, 2019 at 1:44 pm
(May 23, 2019 at 2:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Never mind the fact that the whole universe speaks English.......
If two races that evolved on different planets met - wouldn't simple contact likely be fatal for both sides due to bacterial and viral contamination?
After all - we teem with microbes that we are immune to - but an alien wouldn't have that immunity.
Meet, shake hands, dead within hours....
Kinda makes "live long and prosper" moot.
In an old LucasArts game called The Dig one of the characters of that game mentions that any alien life would not have evolved to take advantage of other alien life because they didn't evolve together, making any contact between alien species safe, sorta.
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RE: Something Star Trek Missed
May 26, 2019 at 2:32 pm
(May 26, 2019 at 1:44 pm)Sal Wrote: (May 23, 2019 at 2:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Never mind the fact that the whole universe speaks English.......
If two races that evolved on different planets met - wouldn't simple contact likely be fatal for both sides due to bacterial and viral contamination?
After all - we teem with microbes that we are immune to - but an alien wouldn't have that immunity.
Meet, shake hands, dead within hours....
Kinda makes "live long and prosper" moot.
In an old LucasArts game called The Dig one of the characters of that game mentions that any alien life would not have evolved to take advantage of other alien life because they didn't evolve together, making any contact between alien species safe, sorta. And there's no reason to believe that, of course.
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