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Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
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RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 6:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 11, 2019 at 6:09 am)Jehanne Wrote: Conservative Christianity needs to be challenged; that's why I am doing it.

Best of luck, but be prepared for a butting-your-head-against-a-brick-wall sort of dialogue.  Reformed Presbyterians are one of those literalist, sola scriptura groups.  I think you'd have better luck teaching trigonometry to a tea kettle.

Boru

I was brainwashed into it while growing-up.  My only real contribution to modern-day skepticism is the fact that the phrase "Last Thursdayism" predates its first recorded occurrence in the RationalWiki:

RationalWiki -- Last Thursdayism

I remember first encountering the term, as a Christian fundamentalist, in the late 1980s while arguing with atheists on the Usenet group alt.atheism.
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#32
RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 10:14 am)Jehanne Wrote: I was brainwashed into it while growing-up.  My only real contribution to modern-day skepticism is the fact that the phrase "Last Thursdayism" predates its first recorded occurrence in the RationalWiki:

RationalWiki -- Last Thursdayism

I remember first encountering the term, as a Christian fundamentalist, in the late 1980s while arguing with atheists on the Usenet group alt.atheism.

Then you must surely know your case is a rarity. Usually theists come here to proselytize and confirm their beliefs. This email request is fishy. I thought there was a rule against that, because there is an email on the first post.

It is an open forum, so yeah,
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#33
RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 6:09 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(June 11, 2019 at 1:47 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: By what do you suppose you’ve gained the credibility to be worth my time to debate?

Your beliefs are of neither interest nor value to me.   I don’t care whether you will be, or are capable of being, persuaded by what I find persuasive.    What I am persuaded by doesn’t have to be anthropomorphized because it stands without idiot affirmation of the infantile.

Conservative Christianity needs to be challenged; that's why I am doing it.

The challenge is to stop the conservative Christians from continuing to intellectually debauch and morally corrupt the less well educated and informed to the detriment of the world and humanity in general.    This can only be done by incorporating potential victims into the discussion.   Arguing with those who are already committed conservative Christians already on a one on one basis does not serve that purpose.


In metaphor that conservative Christians can understand, we are here to save souls, not to save the devil.
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RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 12:19 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(June 11, 2019 at 10:14 am)Jehanne Wrote: I was brainwashed into it while growing-up.  My only real contribution to modern-day skepticism is the fact that the phrase "Last Thursdayism" predates its first recorded occurrence in the RationalWiki:

RationalWiki -- Last Thursdayism

I remember first encountering the term, as a Christian fundamentalist, in the late 1980s while arguing with atheists on the Usenet group alt.atheism.

Then you must surely know your case is a rarity. Usually theists come here to proselytize and confirm their beliefs. This email request is fishy. I thought there was a rule against that, because there is an email on the first post.

It is an open forum,  so yeah,

You think indoctrination is rare? ...ok.
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RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
Christians only ever argue for the existence of a first cause and they never explain why that first cause is supposedly intelligent. Unless you include them attacking evolution (as they have no argument for intelligent design now that we know evolution is true, and evolution can explain the world, so they have to attack evolution). And they never say why it should be the specifically Christian God. Unless you include them insisting that there is historical evidence for the resurrection. But evolution is true, there is no historical evidence of Jesus's resurrection at all, and a first cause is just a first cause. They can call it a prime mover all they want ... it doesn't make it anything other than just a first cause.
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RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 9, 2019 at 10:07 pm)LetsDebateThings Wrote: To all Atheists who are interested in a thoughtful dialogue with a Christian, I challenge you to a debate via Skype (or some other similar video calling program). I am a Reformed Presbyterian. A summary of what I believe can be found in the Westminster Confession of Faith. 

I want to debate Christianity vs. Atheism, Does God exist?, etc.



If you are interested in debating me please email:
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Let me guess, time to get your grades up in religion class in fundagelical homeschool.
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#37
RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 12:52 pm)SenseMaker007 Wrote: Christians only ever argue for the existence of a first cause and they never explain why that first cause is supposedly intelligent. Unless you include them attacking evolution (as they have no argument for intelligent design now that we know evolution is true, and evolution can explain the world, so they have to attack evolution). And they never say why it should be the specifically Christian God. Unless you include them insisting that there is historical evidence for the resurrection. But evolution is true, there is no historical evidence of Jesus's resurrection at all, and a first cause is just a first cause. They can call it a prime mover all they want ... it doesn't make it anything other than just a first cause.

Nothing in modern physics demands a cause for all phenomena; the spontaneous transition of an electron to a lower or ground state isn't caused by anything; it just happens. Ditto for radioactive decay of an unstable atom into its daughter elements.
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RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 3:06 pm)Nomad Wrote:
(June 9, 2019 at 10:07 pm)LetsDebateThings Wrote: To all Atheists who are interested in a thoughtful dialogue with a Christian, I challenge you to a debate via Skype (or some other similar video calling program). I am a Reformed Presbyterian. A summary of what I believe can be found in the Westminster Confession of Faith. 

I want to debate Christianity vs. Atheism, Does God exist?, etc.



If you are interested in debating me please email:
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Let me guess, time to get your grades up in religion class in fundagelical homeschool.

No. I'm not in high school. Thought Atheists liked to reason and dialogue. Guess not?

(June 11, 2019 at 1:47 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(June 9, 2019 at 10:07 pm)LetsDebateThings Wrote: To all Atheists who are interested in a thoughtful dialogue with a Christian, I challenge you to a debate via Skype (or some other similar video calling program). I am a Reformed Presbyterian. A summary of what I believe can be found in the Westminster Confession of Faith. 

I want to debate Christianity vs. Atheism, Does God exist?, etc.



If you are interested in debating me please email:
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By what do you suppose you’ve gained the credibility to be worth my time to debate?

Your beliefs are of neither interest nor value to me.   I don’t care whether you will be, or are capable of being, persuaded by what I find persuasive.    What I am persuaded by doesn’t have to be anthropomorphized because it stands without idiot affirmation of the infantile.
You have time to hang out on forums, but not enough time to actually engage in meaningful dialogue? Your response is just asserting your superiority, which is an arbitrary opinion that has not been rooted in reason, but it mere opinion. You also engaged in an ad hominem abusive fallacy.
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#39
RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
Why would you think that?

*that atheists liked to reason and dialogue
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RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
(June 11, 2019 at 12:19 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(June 11, 2019 at 10:14 am)Jehanne Wrote: I was brainwashed into it while growing-up.  My only real contribution to modern-day skepticism is the fact that the phrase "Last Thursdayism" predates its first recorded occurrence in the RationalWiki:

RationalWiki -- Last Thursdayism

I remember first encountering the term, as a Christian fundamentalist, in the late 1980s while arguing with atheists on the Usenet group alt.atheism.

Then you must surely know your case is a rarity. Usually theists come here to proselytize and confirm their beliefs. This email request is fishy. I thought there was a rule against that, because there is an email on the first post.

It is an open forum,  so yeah,


Doesn't have to be via email. Just thought it'd be easy to coordinate a time to chat that way. I don't care if its via PM.

(June 11, 2019 at 6:25 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Why would you think that?

*that atheists liked to reason and dialogue

Atheists tend to claim to have the monopoly on reason and rationality over against us "religious folk." I thought maybe some of you would like to demonstrate that.
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