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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 3:40 pm
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(June 19, 2019 at 12:22 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: So, no. You don't have a citation from the mueller report for that either.
Buddy, it's alright to say that you think the fbi is wrong. Hell, the god emperor just said exactly that..about exactly this. You'll still actually be wrong..I'm just telling you that you don't have to twist yourself into knots to get there anymore than you needed to lie about what the mueller report showed, or what I'd find if I kept reading..after the portion that showed you were plainly and simply wrong.
I will not find any of this qanon bullshit in the mueller report - and you know that.
So....stop. Hell even Chris Wallance at Fox News doesn't buy Derpch's Bullshit
(June 19, 2019 at 2:30 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
Uhm...... yeah while the Nazi's had the word 'Socialist' in their title they were Fascists like Musolini in Italy and Franco in Spain at the time.
While there are certainly elements of socialism in communism....... they have some fundamental differences.
Like the whole "Dictator at the top gets to tell every one what to do. Or else." kind of thing Communism and Fascism had going on.
Cheers. Calling the Nazi's Socialists because they had the word Socialist in their name is like calling North Korea a Republic . The Nazi's stole the word Socialist to undermine actual socialist movements .Hitler hated Socialists and put thousands of them to death . He hated organized labor in all forms and created a semi welfare state to stamp out any possibility of a workers takeover of production .
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 4:01 pm
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(July 8, 2019 at 3:19 pm)Drich Wrote: I don't see a crime here.
Trump said if you are rich you can grab a woman by the "P." Leo dicaprio depicted howard hughes doing this very thing in the movie the aviator. this is not a new revelation. He didn't say he did it. nor did he nor is it proven that any woman say he did this and or objected.
Also simple being back stage of one of these events puts one in full view of most of the women participating as they have to change into several different outfits. Trump sponsor miss universe for decades. meaning he paid for managed the event which placed him back stage a time or two. Again not a crime.
you a-hle don't seem to know the difference between criminal behavior, and just good old fashion sin.
Trump is not a priest nor did he ever claim to be.
get over yourselves and start buying tissue because come 2020 all you snow flakes will have bought out the national supply as the tears will flow again till 2024..
Thanks for proving yet again, religion has done nothing for you, and you hold no Christian values, when the chips are down.
He wasn't talking about "backstage". He was talking about "dressing-rooms". Do try to keep up.
Trump is not a "priest" .... he didn't abuse little boys, like they did. Priests are not good people. Just like you, religion did them no good too.
However for decades, he ran a corrupt business in New York, a fake "foundation", ran multiple fraudulent companies, (Trump University) and committed multiple frauds, as the NYT has iterated. Tax evasion and purposely MIS-valuing your assets IS a crime.
If this were a Democrat here, the Repubs would be having a hissy-fit. His approval rating is the lowest ever. He cannot win unless he does something to GAIN supporters. He won by a very slim margin. It's not going to happen again. Despite a booming economy (which he is not responsible for), he remains deeply unpopular. He is SO fucking stupid about economics (despite claiming he went to Wharton, ... which of course is yet another Trump LIE, as the GRAD school is "Wharton" and he was an undergrad there ... and did so bad he does everything to HIDE his grades). He learned SO little there, he doesn't even get how the Federal Reserve works, or why it does what it does. He IS so stupid about business, he ran 6, count them, .... SIX companies into bankruptcy. He is just as ignorant of business as he is of everything else. He cheated countless small contractors of what they were owed, just because he could.
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 4:10 pm
Hitler was neither a Socialist or a Capitalist he was a opportunist
On one hand
He used government work project (he stole and privately hated ) as propaganda tools long after the work had stopped or they were abandoned .
He used welfare to kill his Socialist thunder while making sure labor never organized in a meaningful way and sent thousands of union and labour leaders too their deaths
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 4:31 pm
At work.
(July 8, 2019 at 4:10 pm)Amarok Wrote: Hitler was neither a Socialist or a Capitalist he was a opportunist
On one hand
He used government work project (he stole and privately hated ) as propaganda tools long after the work had stopped or they were abandoned .
He used welfare to kill his Socialist thunder while making sure labor never organized in a meaningful way and sent thousands of union and labour leaders too their deaths
Yes Amarock.
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 7:27 pm
(July 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm)Drich Wrote: You are saying trump is guilty because some other guy in the uk is guilty that you get the same heebgeebe from trump as you do this other guy?
Can you moron see how low you have to dip from the well of faith to make trump out to be truly evil? 2/3s of your post is about crap that has nothing to do with trump. you are shooting from emotion and blind faith!which is some how bad when it comes to God but the golden rule it would seem to guide every other aspect of your life! where is that athestic demand for evidence and proof? kinda does not matter here huh? Man if there was a god then you've probably really pissed him off on how big of a hypocrite you can be... it seems you will say believe or profess in anything so lng as you can think however you want.
One minute your on about proof and evidence and the next you judge a man based only on emotion vibes and what a complete stranger did the last time you felt this way. do you know no shame?
Here's the basic facts of what I was saying since you didn't seem to give a shit the first time:
In retrospect, perhaps using the case of Jimmy Savile to showcase how much a guilty person can finesse his way out of consequences for over half a century and just leaving it at that wasn't the best idea. I also should have pointed out that Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct all across the spectrum by 24 different women. One woman falsely accusing him of rape is plausible (the biggest study of the phoenomenon I've read says somewhere in the area of 5.5% of rape accusations are false). 24 doing so and all of them are fake? That kind of pimp-slaps my willing suspension of disbelief. Especially when he says shit like this:
Personally, while I'm not the type of person who takes EVERY rape accusation at face value, at this point, with the evidence at hand, I'm willing to consider the allegations:
However, given that there are actually bad things he's done that are pretty much
I would personally consider the sexual assault allegations of a lower priority to me when critiquing Trump. Here's a (woefully incomplete) of 546 shitty things Trump has done between January 2011 and October 2018. Only 42 of them happened before his inauguration and this list doesn't include (yet, anyway) anything from 1 November 2018 on, so it doesn't include his looming threat for a war with Iran or setting up what essentially amounts to concentration camps where migrant CHILDREN are told "If you want water, just drink from a toilet." And here's a source from the Department of Homeland Security confirming that, yes, they are horrible.
And before you balk at my use of "concentration camps," bear in mind: there are experts on concentration camps and Auschwitz survivors who agree with the comparison. To be fair, it's not yet at "Extermination Camps" level, we don't have gas chambers (not yet, anyway), but, unfortunately, that's not the only marker of a concentration camp (for more information, see the "Experts on Concentration Camps" link I posted.)
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 7:54 pm
(July 8, 2019 at 7:27 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (July 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm)Drich Wrote: You are saying trump is guilty because some other guy in the uk is guilty that you get the same heebgeebe from trump as you do this other guy?
Can you moron see how low you have to dip from the well of faith to make trump out to be truly evil? 2/3s of your post is about crap that has nothing to do with trump. you are shooting from emotion and blind faith!which is some how bad when it comes to God but the golden rule it would seem to guide every other aspect of your life! where is that athestic demand for evidence and proof? kinda does not matter here huh? Man if there was a god then you've probably really pissed him off on how big of a hypocrite you can be... it seems you will say believe or profess in anything so lng as you can think however you want.
One minute your on about proof and evidence and the next you judge a man based only on emotion vibes and what a complete stranger did the last time you felt this way. do you know no shame?
Here's the basic facts of what I was saying since you didn't seem to give a shit the first time:
In retrospect, perhaps using the case of Jimmy Savile to showcase how much a guilty person can finesse his way out of consequences for over half a century and just leaving it at that wasn't the best idea. I also should have pointed out that Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct all across the spectrum by 24 different women. One woman falsely accusing him of rape is plausible (the biggest study of the phoenomenon I've read says somewhere in the area of 5.5% of rape accusations are false). 24 doing so and all of them are fake? That kind of pimp-slaps my willing suspension of disbelief. Especially when he says shit like this:
Personally, while I'm not the type of person who takes EVERY rape accusation at face value, at this point, with the evidence at hand, I'm willing to consider the allegations:
However, given that there are actually bad things he's done that are pretty much
I would personally consider the sexual assault allegations of a lower priority to me when critiquing Trump. Here's a (woefully incomplete) of 546 shitty things Trump has done between January 2011 and October 2018. Only 42 of them happened before his inauguration and this list doesn't include (yet, anyway) anything from 1 November 2018 on, so it doesn't include his looming threat for a war with Iran or setting up what essentially amounts to concentration camps where migrant CHILDREN are told "If you want water, just drink from a toilet." And here's a source from the Department of Homeland Security confirming that, yes, they are horrible.
And before you balk at my use of "concentration camps," bear in mind: there are experts on concentration camps and Auschwitz survivors who agree with the comparison. To be fair, it's not yet at "Extermination Camps" level, we don't have gas chambers (not yet, anyway), but, unfortunately, that's not the only marker of a concentration camp (for more information, see the "Experts on Concentration Camps" link I posted.) I wouldn't put death camps past the Republicans as some already supported the idea of simply killing them .
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm
Trump didn't announce shit. He simply grunted vile bullshit we've all heard before.
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 8:11 pm
(July 8, 2019 at 7:27 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (July 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm)Drich Wrote: You are saying trump is guilty because some other guy in the uk is guilty that you get the same heebgeebe from trump as you do this other guy?
Can you moron see how low you have to dip from the well of faith to make trump out to be truly evil? 2/3s of your post is about crap that has nothing to do with trump. you are shooting from emotion and blind faith!which is some how bad when it comes to God but the golden rule it would seem to guide every other aspect of your life! where is that athestic demand for evidence and proof? kinda does not matter here huh? Man if there was a god then you've probably really pissed him off on how big of a hypocrite you can be... it seems you will say believe or profess in anything so lng as you can think however you want.
One minute your on about proof and evidence and the next you judge a man based only on emotion vibes and what a complete stranger did the last time you felt this way. do you know no shame?
Here's the basic facts of what I was saying since you didn't seem to give a shit the first time:
In retrospect, perhaps using the case of Jimmy Savile to showcase how much a guilty person can finesse his way out of consequences for over half a century and just leaving it at that wasn't the best idea. I also should have pointed out that Trump has been accused of sexual misconduct all across the spectrum by 24 different women. One woman falsely accusing him of rape is plausible (the biggest study of the phoenomenon I've read says somewhere in the area of 5.5% of rape accusations are false). 24 doing so and all of them are fake? That kind of pimp-slaps my willing suspension of disbelief. Especially when he says shit like this:
Personally, while I'm not the type of person who takes EVERY rape accusation at face value, at this point, with the evidence at hand, I'm willing to consider the allegations:
However, given that there are actually bad things he's done that are pretty much
I would personally consider the sexual assault allegations of a lower priority to me when critiquing Trump. Here's a (woefully incomplete) of 546 shitty things Trump has done between January 2011 and October 2018. Only 42 of them happened before his inauguration and this list doesn't include (yet, anyway) anything from 1 November 2018 on, so it doesn't include his looming threat for a war with Iran or setting up what essentially amounts to concentration camps where migrant CHILDREN are told "If you want water, just drink from a toilet." And here's a source from the Department of Homeland Security confirming that, yes, they are horrible.
And before you balk at my use of "concentration camps," bear in mind: there are experts on concentration camps and Auschwitz survivors who agree with the comparison. To be fair, it's not yet at "Extermination Camps" level, we don't have gas chambers (not yet, anyway), but, unfortunately, that's not the only marker of a concentration camp (for more information, see the "Experts on Concentration Camps" link I posted.) And considering the low threshold of evidence to accept the claims it just adds to the likelihood
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 8, 2019 at 9:10 pm
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(July 8, 2019 at 8:11 pm)Amarok Wrote: And considering the low threshold of evidence to accept the claims it just adds to the likelihood
Yeah, the sheer amount of shitty stuff he's done that's actually confirmed makes these allegations all the more plausible. That said, plausible does not mean confirmed, and, as likely as it is, when we've got so much confirmed stuff to showcase how horrible he is, as callous as it may seem to the 24 women, for me, personally, it's just not as big a priority when we're spoiled for options that are actually confirmed.
For further insight into this mindset, read Christopher Hitchens' The Trial of Henry Kissinger. In it, Hitch plays the part of prosecutor detailing, in his words:
No, I have confined myself to the identifiable crimes that can and should be placed on a proper bill of indictment, whether the actions taken were in line with general "policy" or not. These include:
1.The deliberate mass killing of civilian populations in Indochina.
2.Deliberate collusion in mass murder, and later in assassination, in Bangladesh.
3.The personal suborning and planning of murder, of a senior constitutional officer in a democratic nation Chile - with which the United States was not at war.
4.Personal involvement in a plan to murder the head of state in the democratic nation of Cyprus.
5.The incitement and enabling of genocide in East Timor.
6.Personal involvement in a plan to kidnap and murder a journalist living in Washington, DC.
The above allegations are not exhaustive. And some of them can only be constructed prima facie, since Mr. Kissinger - in what may also amount to a deliberate and premeditated obstruction of justice - has caused large tranches of evidence to be withheld or destroyed.
Admittedly, I'm more talking about criticisms than crimes, but the principle is largely the same, the way I see it: confirmed misdeeds and criticisms are higher priority the merely plausible. Also, see the Chapo take on Joe Biden's career, going into a damning level of detail about his unfitness for the presidency without even touching on the (similarly unconfirmed and smaller scale, but still plausible) misconduct allegations against him (even if it is just because the article they're reading was a bit over ten years old):
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RE: trump announces his bid for reelection!
July 15, 2019 at 9:58 am
Boy..for someone Trumps minions say isn't a Dictator they sure go through lots of hoops to convince you he isn't.
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