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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 6:59 pm
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You're just wrong. Combat doesn't only take one form. That you want to brag about being in a 'superior' or 'truer' form of combat doesn't stop fist-fighting from being combat. Even fist-fighting with gloves.
At the base of most, if not all competitions is a sort of aggression of wanting to defeat or dominate the other person or group of people. Basketball players display this aggression very openly. American Football players even more so. This aggression is, at it's base, that want, or possibly need, to dominate other people physically. If I beat you in a game of basketball one-on-one, I have physically out-performed you within the specific set of parameters of what performance means in basketball.
My point was that fighting is a much more direct way of expressing this aggression, and fighters have to overcome that fear of facing an opposer that is actually physically displaying that aggression toward them in a very direct way. You don't have to worry about getting 'dunked on,' you have to worry about getting knocked out or having your arm snapped or getting choked unconscious. In our civilized (debatable) society, the UFC , and organizations like it, are as close as we can get to a legally sanctioned form of something that's like (though a lot unlike) what used to occur in the days of gladiators fighting one another in an arena. It is legally sanctioned combat. Period. That's not something that's up for debate, and it's not overshadowed by the fact that you seem to want to get into a pissing contest about who REALLY knows what combat is.
Unlike you, I don't care about what it is that 'tough' people are doing. My point was that expressing that aggression through basketball or football is sort of beside the point, which is why I have much more respect for the direct expression of that aggression via physical combat. I think it's tough to get over that fear of being hit, though it's completely natural. Basketball or football seems like beating around the bush to me, which is part of why I have little interest in watching it.
I highly doubt you've ever been shot at or seen real combat. But, hey who knows? And if that's the story your sticking to..uh, cool? You wouldn't last a minute in a ring with even an amateur fighter.
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 7:05 pm
Suppose we keep all sports as they are, but we slather all the competitors with butter substitute beforehand.
We could call it 'Margarine-ized Sports'.
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 7:13 pm
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MMA isn’t a fist fight either, lol. It was closer back on the 80’s and 90’s... but it was never going to be able to go mainstream that way.
So it became a game in order to operate as a successful business.
Fuckin a, you’d think I’d just told you that the wwf was a soap opera or something.
I probably wouldn’t have any trouble “lasting”, lol, I’ve got a head like a cement block.... but I sure as shit couldn’t win. I’m no good at their game.
Just like my wife wiping the floor with me in aikido. Her game, she’s better at it.
( I can keep going with frank comments that subvert your man fit about how the mmas -R 2- super manly physical combat, compared to the kiddies who watch other sports )
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 7:18 pm
(August 1, 2019 at 7:13 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: MMA isn’t a fist fight either, lol. It was closer back on the 80’s and 90’s... but it was never going to be able to go mainstream that way.
So it became a game in order to operate as a successful business.
Fuckin a, you’d think I’d just told you that the wwf was a soap opera or something.
Except it literally is a fight-fight. And more. It's a competition to see which person can physically dominate the other via combat. It isn't bare-knuckle, sure.
And I'll do you one better, the UFC is essentially a soap-opera anymore. I'd encourage anyone interested in martial arts or combat sports to just go to a local gym or dojo and actually get involved in the sport or martial art, not watch it on tv.
Stop trying to make this like it's me getting offended about the UFC or something. Lol it's terribly transparent and cringey of you.
Just explaining what my point of view was/is. Not that big of a deal. Chill out.
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 7:21 pm
I was invited to participate in a jousting tourney once. I politely declined, explaining that it was too combat-y for me (it was actually because of the horses, but I wasn't telling THEM that).
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 7:21 pm
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It’s a competition to see who can adroitly manipulate the rules imposed in order to be a televised hit....of getting greased up and manhandsing, lol.
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Fuck horses and combat, lol. If I never see either ever again I’ll be pleased.
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 7:26 pm
So, in your mind, winning a UFC fight would be easy huh? After all, it's not real combat, it's just "adroitly manipulating the rules." That's all.
Jesus christ bulge. As usual, you expose yourself for being the clown I thought you were. I've wasted more time going back and forth with your dumb ass longer than I care to admit. But I'm sure you'll be here all night. You don't seem to have gainful employment or a life outside of AF lol
Have fun with the last word, I know you'll take it. You're so predictable
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 8:09 pm
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No easier than winning a chess tournament. You’re the one ranking games by ease and pussiness and what you respect, member.
I’m just giggling at the laughable idea that a game is combat.
Bit like the job jokes, man hands. I can afford to spend as much time as I like laughing at stuff like this. Maybe you should work harder at comebacks and life?
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 8:21 pm
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Dwarf tossing (Not to be confused with dwarf throwing).
Stabby, stabby, kill, kill.
Tourist Season*
*with shotguns.
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RE: Marginalized sports
August 1, 2019 at 8:27 pm
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Why are we talking about MMA? Are we talking about sports that's been marginalized, or sports that needs marginalizing?
(July 17, 2019 at 12:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (July 17, 2019 at 7:25 am)wyzas Wrote: What ever the sport, have them participate nude. Cha-ching!
But what if all the players look like Trump?
Then people who would watch deserves to be blind.
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