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Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
At work.

(August 19, 2019 at 2:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 1:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Consider the difficulty of understanding a newly discovered stone tablet with some imaginary ancient language. They appear to us as scribbles because that's all they are. The language itself is lost with the minds of the civilization in which it existed.

Seriously?

That’s all they are?

They’re often the thoughts and daily goings on of people in a list culture long gone.

They give us insights to their culture, their laws, and how they lived their lives.

Dismissing them as “squiggles” is an insult to those who came before us and those of us who are interested in these ancient peoples, as well as those who dedicate their lives learning about them.

There are lost squiggles of the Greeks I would love to have rediscovered.

The writings of the Minoans (Those that we have) would be fascinating. A culture that has no known depiction of war. Amazing.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 2:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: [quote="John 6IX Breezy" pid='1927713' dateline='1566236677']

Seriously?

That’s all they are?

They’re often the thoughts and daily goings on of people in a list culture long gone.

They give us insights to their culture, their laws, and how they lived their lives.

Dismissing them as “squiggles” is an insult to those who came before us and those of us who are interested in these ancient peoples, as well as those who dedicate their lives learning about them.

What someone choses to be insulted by is their prerogative. I find it more fascinating to realize that thoughts can be transmitted into my head by someone that lived millennia ago, via the meaning our minds are able to stamp onto scribbles. That sharing the same psychological infrastructure has allowed us to communicate with one another through the representations we give to noise, scribbles, hand motions, and almost any other medium that can be perceived.

Perhaps one should be insulted by those who praise the scribbles and ignore the creative minds behind them; but again, everyone is free to decide what they're offended by.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 1:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm)Grandizer Wrote: You're saying English is purely psychological. That's false.

Consider the difficulty of understanding a newly discovered stone tablet with some imaginary ancient language. They appear to us as scribbles because that's all they are. The language itself is lost with the minds of the civilization in which it existed.

If you're not a fundagelical christard as you claim, then why use as your name one of the passages from the gospel of john?

(August 19, 2019 at 2:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 1:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Consider the difficulty of understanding a newly discovered stone tablet with some imaginary ancient language. They appear to us as scribbles because that's all they are. The language itself is lost with the minds of the civilization in which it existed.

Seriously?

That’s all they are?

They’re often the thoughts and daily goings on of people in a list culture long gone.

They give us insights to their culture, their laws, and how they lived their lives.

Dismissing them as “squiggles” is an insult to those who came before us and those of us who are interested in these ancient peoples, as well as those who dedicate their lives learning about them.

Well in the christian fuckhead's example they are squiggles actually. He is talking about an imaginary language, just like the stuff he hears every week down below at the pentecostal scam house.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 3:06 pm)Nomad Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 1:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Consider the difficulty of understanding a newly discovered stone tablet with some imaginary ancient language. They appear to us as scribbles because that's all they are. The language itself is lost with the minds of the civilization in which it existed.

If you're not a fundagelical christard as you claim, then why use as your name one of the passages from the gospel of john?

Well, this is a good example of why a language exists within the mind and not the world. My username has nothing to do with any passages, but given my ongoing point, we would expect discrepancies to arise between the meaning I gave the words John 6IX Breezy, and the meaning your brain has produced as a result. Given that the scribbles are void of meaning.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 2:59 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 2:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: [quote="John 6IX Breezy" pid='1927713' dateline='1566236677']

Seriously?

That’s all they are?

They’re often the thoughts and daily goings on of people in a list culture long gone.

They give us insights to their culture, their laws, and how they lived their lives.

Dismissing them as “squiggles” is an insult to those who came before us and those of us who are interested in these ancient peoples, as well as those who dedicate their lives learning about them.

What someone choses to be insulted by is their prerogative. I find it more fascinating to realize that thoughts can be transmitted into my head by someone that lived millennia ago, via the meaning our minds are able to stamp onto scribbles. That sharing the same psychological infrastructure has allowed us to communicate with one another through the representations we give to noise, scribbles, hand motions, and almost any other medium that can be perceived.

Perhaps one should be insulted by those who praise the scribbles and ignore the creative minds behind them; but again, everyone is free to decide what they're offended by.

But without interpreting the”scribbles” and the language they represent, we can’t appreciate the thoughts, the minds, that are behind them.

True or false?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 2:59 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 2:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 1:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Seriously?

That’s all they are?

They’re often the thoughts and daily goings on of people in a list culture long gone.

They give us insights to their culture, their laws, and how they lived their lives.

Dismissing them as “squiggles” is an insult to those who came before us and those of us who are interested in these ancient peoples, as well as those who dedicate their lives learning about them.

What someone choses to be insulted by is their prerogative. I find it more fascinating to realize that thoughts can be transmitted into my head by someone that lived millennia ago, via the meaning our minds are able to stamp onto scribbles. That sharing the same psychological infrastructure has allowed us to communicate with one another through the representations we give to noise, scribbles, hand motions, and almost any other medium that can be perceived.

Perhaps one should be insulted by those who praise the scribbles and ignore the creative minds behind them; but again, everyone is free to decide what they're offended by.

Unless you can read languages other than English, no one who 'lived millennia ago' made scribbles than are going to transmit anything into your head.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 3:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Unless you can read languages other than English, no one who 'lived millennia ago' made scribbles than are going to transmit anything into your head.

Boru

I hope not; otherwise I would have to recant my point that they're merely scribbles and the language they represent is lost with the minds that produced them. Although, there are many intelligent, hardworking people that are able to re-discover, and re-represent the meaning of lost languages thanks to our shared psychology infrastructure with ancient people, of course.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 2:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(August 19, 2019 at 1:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Consider the difficulty of understanding a newly discovered stone tablet with some imaginary ancient language. They appear to us as scribbles because that's all they are. The language itself is lost with the minds of the civilization in which it existed.

Seriously?

That’s all they are?

They’re often the thoughts and daily goings on of people in a list culture long gone.

They give us insights to their culture, their laws, and how they lived their lives.

Dismissing them as “squiggles” is an insult to those who came before us and those of us who are interested in these ancient peoples, as well as those who dedicate their lives learning about them.


Well,  to be a theist in the modern age one has to become thoroughly accustomed to continuously insulting all of humanity, and in particular those who genuinely hold humanity in decent regard.   So why should he be taken aback by the specific form of insult manifested in flippantly dismissing the works of man from time to time?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 19, 2019 at 3:43 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: But without interpreting the”scribbles” and the language they represent, we can’t appreciate the thoughts, the minds, that are behind them.

True or false?

Correct.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/skul...gRZaD0lVYI
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