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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 12:10 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:08 pm)BryanS Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 9:28 am)onlinebiker Wrote: President Trump is a mysoginistc buffoon. Read a few of his tweets and it's obvious. Even people who voted for him think he's a joke.
But - I keep on hearing on NPR how "he's not doing enough to distance himself from white supremists".
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What's he gotta do?
If he comes out and condems the skinheads and NAZIs- his detractors will just say he's insincere.
Perhaps if he publicly beheaded David Duke.
But then - he would be labeled a murderous freak who doesn't respect human life.
The orange schlub can't win.
I feel sorry for the dufus sometime....
Trump is a deeply flawed individual, but his detractors are unable to deal with him rationally. One would hope the press could function as a dispassionate check against Trump's worst impulses, but the press is incompetent and hopelessly partisan.
For supporters of Trump rationality bounces off them like bullets from batfinks wings of steal.
They are after all mainly Christians and used to accepting bollocks a fact.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 12:16 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: For supporters of Trump rationality bounces off them like bullets from batfinks wings of steal.
They are after all mainly Christians and used to accepting bollocks a fact.
This is often true of partisan "true believers". My point about the incompetent press is that there are persuadable people in the polity, but the press's dogmatic partisanship and grotesque journalistic incompetence ensures they play no role as influencers. Whatever Trump's support level is--just under half the country or so--they are not all crazy like Trump.
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 12:33 pm
They’re crazy enough to take a trump in trade for whatever non crazy thing they may want.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 12:40 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:16 pm)BryanS Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 12:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: For supporters of Trump rationality bounces off them like bullets from batfinks wings of steal.
They are after all mainly Christians and used to accepting bollocks a fact.
This is often true of partisan "true believers". My point about the incompetent press is that there are persuadable people in the polity, but the press's dogmatic partisanship and grotesque journalistic incompetence ensures they play no role as influencers. Whatever Trump's support level is--just under half the country or so--they are not all crazy like Trump.
You're making the same (wrong) assumption that Brian is - that everyone who voted Trump, supports Trump.
I know lots of people who voted Trump.
Not "for Trump".
They figured he was slightly less worse (not better) than Hillary.
I just stayed home. I knew there would be no winners.
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 12:42 pm
A similar decision with regards to carrying trumps racist water might go a long way.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 1:27 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I just stayed home. I knew there would be no winners.
I did the same.
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 1:57 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 1:27 pm)BryanS Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 12:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I just stayed home. I knew there would be no winners.
I did the same.
We were right.
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm
I have to go with Deese on this one. Years of hateful, racist rhetoric from Trump don't get erased by a few minutes of political expediency.
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Wouldn’t matter if it did. He’s back to racist fever tweeting again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 6, 2019 at 4:10 pm
It's getting closer to election time. Trump's handlers are telling him to backpedal on the white supremacy thing.
He can say what he wants - his past actions and unbelievable remarks are there for all of us to see/hear.
I think his crew know that things have finally gone too far and they are trying to run damage control. All they can hope for is that he stays on script.
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