RE: God, Energy and Matter
September 19, 2019 at 8:10 am
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2019 at 8:14 am by The Grand Nudger.)
No sillier than asserting that, if there is a god, it is and works exactly as we see the world. It's the god of a meatgrinder, where the creatures on it's rock can expect to be eaten alive asshole first. Earth is a lonely prison colony full of starving murderers....adrift in space, lol. The base is the similarity between the two concepts (such as it is, lol, cats and dogs are equally similar, as I keep trying to tell him). Sort of like noticing that vader and his stormtroopers remind us of someone, or how those beautiful TIE interceptors scream like Stukas no matter what they're doing, lol. That's not the silly part. Not when I do it, not when he does it, not when anyone does it. Concepts can be similar. Even concepts referent to one reality and one fiction, respectively.
The silly part is in imagining that this leads to or is a comment on pantheism or provides support for his christianity. The properties of energy aren't the relevant properties which get us to pantheism or christianity. Its not on account of how energy and matter are in some sense eternal that pantheists make their assertion. Nor are matter and energy god, to pantheists or christians.
Count the hits, ignore the misses, misstate the referenced position's contents. That's silly, in ways that noticing similarity between concepts or even making some comment based upon assumptions just isn't. In ways that proposing god isn't, even. That's all I was referring to about being able to make two baskets, one silly, one not so much. It's rare to find a believer that's a complete loon from top to bottom. They try to ground their beliefs in reality, like we all do.
The silly part is in imagining that this leads to or is a comment on pantheism or provides support for his christianity. The properties of energy aren't the relevant properties which get us to pantheism or christianity. Its not on account of how energy and matter are in some sense eternal that pantheists make their assertion. Nor are matter and energy god, to pantheists or christians.
Count the hits, ignore the misses, misstate the referenced position's contents. That's silly, in ways that noticing similarity between concepts or even making some comment based upon assumptions just isn't. In ways that proposing god isn't, even. That's all I was referring to about being able to make two baskets, one silly, one not so much. It's rare to find a believer that's a complete loon from top to bottom. They try to ground their beliefs in reality, like we all do.
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