TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.

[Minimalist]

He will be punished in the afterlife as well.

No, he won't but its a charming thought. I can see the appeal.

Alas...one more silly superstition.

[Cinjin]

How many other times have we seen the same thing from a member of the "religion of peace" huh? It has everything to do with Islam, especially seeing as he ran a muslim tv network trying to counter negative images of muslims whilst then himself partaking in what seems to be a favourite past time of members of Islam along side being offended by everything and stoning innocents to death.

The man committed a crime and it is considered a major sin in Islam to kill an innocent person. He will be punished in the afterlife as well.

Actually ...
I had a muslim roomate for a short while in college and he said that his religion teaches that very few people go to hell and that hell is reserved for only a select few.
This of course would seem to HAVE to be the case since muslims condone a lot of uber-harsh punishments on disrespectful wives and you can't have ALL your men going to hell for a simple "well-deserved" stoning.

[Zen Badger]

use some common sense skip

Please be good enough then to use some of that "common sense" to explain this....

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/ston...toning.htm

[Cinjin]

use some common sense skip

Please be good enough then to use some of that "common sense" to explain this....

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/ston...toning.htm

you already know what this guy is going to say. He'll be full of denials and condemnations and side-stepping everything he possibly can to defend his barbaric beliefs. These people sicken me!

[ruhollah]

Hi Zen

I can provide you a great youtube lecture regarding this issue, it will take some time to find/upload the piece but you have to let me know if you are interested.

Regarding the site you provide, it is interesting that it left out a key element in a stoning sentence.

Essentially the law is, there must be FOUR witnesses that watched the act live at the same time at the same place. This is very rare to occur in real life. The only time this can happen is if the couple are doing a porn shoot and then the 4 producers have a change of heart and go to a religious cleric describing the situation. After which a DNA testing is taken to confirm that the act was committed. Other than that, a stoning sentence is highly unlikely to occur in theory.

The fact that that website does not mention the four witness tells you something about its credibility.

If you like to know more about the logic behind a stoning sentence and why there must be 4 witnesses, just ask and I can find the you-tube video.

Please be good enough then to use some of that "common sense" to explain this....

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/ston...toning.htm

[KichigaiNeko]

Why are you so supportive of a primitive cultural sentence that died out 2000 years ago in civilised countries?

And since when is rape (an opportunistic crime) ever viewed by more than one person...let alone one man or four??? Hypocrites!

[ruhollah]

Hi kichigaiNeko

Firstly, Punishment for rape is not stoning!

Secondly, stoning isn't issued as casually as you think. It is so rare that perhaps occurs once a decade. Usually when it occurs it is for the wrong reasons, or the community lacked in proper education.

Stoning is issued when adultery is committed provided 4 witnesses watched the event at that exact moment at that exact location. Hence, the only time this can be issued if something like a porn production was conducted and the producers and the director had a "change of heart".

Now the religion provides various alternatives to adultery, they could of considered divorce, second marriage, ...etc. They could of taken a vacation to a secular nation and made love. Instead they did their act knowing full well of the consequences and at the same time were caught or witnessed by 4 or more people.

Why stoning?

Adultery is a negative vibe in the community that destroys families. It can create illegitimate children who grow up with a chip on their shoulder and stir trouble in the community. Essentially the whole community is hurt by it.

As a result, provided that FOUR WITNESSES can testify that the act occurred; stoning is the only punishment that the whole community can get involved in. Everyone in the community can have a contribution in getting rid of this negative vibe and stand by the affected family and give them support. This is a firm stance on this issue, and people can not be cowards and do stuff to their spouse behind their backs.

You may think all this is barbaric, but if you were ever affected as result of adultery you would fully support this kind of punishment. Affected victims should be supported and backed by the community.

Its like murder. If someone murders a close family member, you will demand the murderer be sentenced to death.

Why are you so supportive of a primitive cultural sentence that died out 2000 years ago in civilised countries?

And since when is rape (an opportunistic crime) ever viewed by more than one person...let alone one man or four??? Hypocrites!

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Why are you so supportive of a primitive cultural sentence that died out 2000 years ago in civilised countries?

And since when is rape (an opportunistic crime) ever viewed by more than one person...let alone one man or four??? Hypocrites!

[Zen Badger]

Hi Zen

I can provide you a great youtube lecture regarding this issue, it will take some time to find/upload the piece but you have to let me know if you are interested.

Regarding the site you provide, it is interesting that it left out a key element in a stoning sentence.

Essentially the law is, there must be FOUR witnesses that watched the act live at the same time at the same place. This is very rare to occur in real life. The only time this can happen is if the couple are doing a porn shoot and then the 4 producers have a change of heart and go to a religious cleric describing the situation. After which a DNA testing is taken to confirm that the act was committed. Other than that, a stoning sentence is highly unlikely to occur in theory.

The fact that that website does not mention the four witness tells you something about its credibility.

If you like to know more about the logic behind a stoning sentence and why there must be 4 witnesses, just ask and I can find the you-tube video.

Please be good enough then to use some of that "common sense" to explain this....

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/ston...toning.htm

So you are claiming that because this site didn't mention four witness's to the "crimes" committed the stonings it describes didn't happen.

You hypocritical, disingenuous, reality denying shitbag.

Apologize for your stone age religion all you like.

It is still a religion of hatred, intolerance and cruelty.

And you are a fool for thinking otherwise.

[ruhollah]

If it is going to leave out a key element of a stoning sentence, then the credibility of the source should be questioned.

Clearly this is a propaganda link.

Hi Zen

I can provide you a great youtube lecture regarding this issue, it will take some time to find/upload the piece but you have to let me know if you are interested.

Regarding the site you provide, it is interesting that it left out a key element in a stoning sentence.

Essentially the law is, there must be FOUR witnesses that watched the act live at the same time at the same place. This is very rare to occur in real life. The only time this can happen is if the couple are doing a porn shoot and then the 4 producers have a change of heart and go to a religious cleric describing the situation. After which a DNA testing is taken to confirm that the act was committed. Other than that, a stoning sentence is highly unlikely to occur in theory.

The fact that that website does not mention the four witness tells you something about its credibility.

If you like to know more about the logic behind a stoning sentence and why there must be 4 witnesses, just ask and I can find the you-tube video.

Please be good enough then to use some of that "common sense" to explain this....

http://www.dhushara.com/book/sakina/ston...toning.htm

So you are claiming that because this site didn't mention four witness's to the "crimes" committed the stonings it describes didn't happen.

You hypocritical, disingenuous, reality denying shitbag.

Apologize for your stone age religion all you like.

It is still a religion of hatred, intolerance and cruelty.

And you are a fool for thinking otherwise.

[Rayaan]

Ruhollah, as a posting advice, you should always post your comments below the quoted post, not above it.

Also, please do not include large quotes in your post. Either snip them and leave a part of the quote only, or use hide tags, or just address the member's name.