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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 7:10 am
(April 22, 2011 at 7:05 am)Napoleon666 Wrote:
i never thought i'd see the day a muslim would take the moral high ground. especially on the topic of stoning...
That's because they are immoral Nap... *pfft
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 7:12 am
(April 22, 2011 at 6:45 am)ruhollah Wrote: I'm not denying anything...
Secondly this religion encourages a man to make love to a women (under marriage), not jerking off to pictures of them.
So you admit that these barbaric stonings have happened then....
P.s Kichi and I are a couple but we're not married, guess that makes us adulterers then.
Oops....
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 7:26 am
(April 22, 2011 at 7:12 am)Zen Badger Wrote: P.s Kichi and I are a couple but we're not married, guess that makes us adulterers then.
Oops....
NO it doesn't!!! Neither of you have a spouse! You're just BF/GF.
In some countries, if you get caught fornicating, you are strongly urged to get married. Marriage in those country isn't a business like it is in the west. It is just a verification that you are a couple.
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 8:00 am
(April 22, 2011 at 7:26 am)ruhollah Wrote: (April 22, 2011 at 7:12 am)Zen Badger Wrote: P.s Kichi and I are a couple but we're not married, guess that makes us adulterers then.
Oops....
NO it doesn't!!! Neither of you have a spouse! You're just BF/GF.
In some countries, if you get caught fornicating, you are strongly urged to get married. Marriage in those country isn't a business like it is in the west. It is just a verification that you are a couple.
But I did have a spouse, I left my wife to be with Kichi and it was about about 18 months before we were divorced.
And Kichi and I were fornicating wildy the whole time.
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 8:17 am
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(April 22, 2011 at 7:26 am)ruhollah Wrote: (April 22, 2011 at 7:12 am)Zen Badger Wrote: P.s Kichi and I are a couple but we're not married, guess that makes us adulterers then.
Oops....
NO it doesn't!!! Neither of you have a spouse! You're just BF/GF.
In some countries, if you get caught fornicating, you are strongly urged to get married. Marriage in those country isn't a business like it is in the west. It is just a verification that you are a couple.
That is what makes you very infantile and incongruent ruhollah. We ARE 'married' probably more married than any of your religious dogma can dictate... I think it is mainly due to the fact that we choose to be together and that there is no god or mullahs or imams or any other perverted 'clergy' to bother us. We are free.
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 10:15 am
(April 22, 2011 at 8:00 am)Zen Badger Wrote: But I did have a spouse, I left my wife to be with Kichi and it was about about 18 months before we were divorced.
And Kichi and I were fornicating wildy the whole time.
^ errrr man.....
looks like we're gonna have to stone you! lol
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 10:19 am
(April 22, 2011 at 6:45 am)ruhollah Wrote: (April 22, 2011 at 6:37 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: ....
We already have stupid.
ruhollah...your religion is based on a puny little man thing inadequacies...you are a simpleton if you think that marriage and the emotions that come from that are able to be put into your pathetic backward tribal laws.
Stoning for adultery is NOT a viable punishment in the civilised world ...end of story.
Listen kichigaiNeko it's clear your getting emotional about this topic, especially since you experienced the pains of adultery.
This beauty about this world is that there are different view points and ideologies. You may be strong enough to handle adultery.... but there are those who can't and this religion can protect them from feeling guilt and pain.
We can sit and argue about this issue all day, but I recommend you take a break and come back when you can give a good argument and not resort to foul language.
So which bit upset your delicate feminine sensibilities ruhollah?? I can do a re-mix that will not be any more pleasant.
What I experienced is the 'act of betrayal' nothing more. It made me personally 'pick-up my bed and walk' as it did to the other in the relationship... I still fail to see how THAT condones this barbaric 'stoning' that you seem to delight over.
I would venture that you are putting yourself forward as a graduate student of 'Sociology and Community Services'. I would also postulate that you have never really looked at your religion nor have you dissected it ..you THINK you know about this "West" but you don't. Like so many I have known before... you can NOT make people 'fit your ideals' it just won't happen. I have no idea why but there it is. Any student of biology will tell you.."..just when you THINK you have Mother pinned down..along comes 'The exception to the rule' and there are SO MANY OF THEM!!"
This is why your precious religion is just the ramblings of an irritated child....no different to judaism or xtianity...your religion is a late comer to the world scene and not very good at it because the world has already moved on and you haven't. This is why you look silly and childish and unskilled.
Poetic??? My pink orchid it is... it is no more "poetic" than the other 'books' on the topic. ..WHY? because it is nothing more than plagiarism of the other books that are plagiarisms of even older works...have you not investigated this??
If I come across as being "emotional" it is because I do not tolerate imbeciles very well... of any religious ilk or flavour and have had the 'calm reasoning' used on me to undermine my resolve and entrap me..never again!!
So ruhollah you have not provided any reason other than your "religion" for the inhumane cruelty perpetrated on your own people...nice place you got there...please stay there and fix it...??
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm
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It's pretty simple: adultery does not warrant the death penalty. Period. Thinking it does means a brutal disregard for the importance of human life if you really think sex is good enough reason to take it.
4 witnesses ? Nowhere do i see any need for actual PROOF of deed. You only need 4 MEN to agree this or that WOMAN should die. That is insane and unlawful. If you can't see how misogynistic your religion is, it only shows how deep in their own delusions theists can be.
But this is not the main problem: those stonings are made in the name of Islam. It does not matter if all those conditions you described are met: your religion is the only reason those murders took place, and as such is responsible for them. Without Islam, those stonings simply would not have happened, so the blame is on your primitive religion.
PS: Emotional responses are normal when someone condones MURDER !
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 2:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2011 at 3:03 pm by ruhollah.)
(April 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: It's pretty simple: adultery does not warrant the death penalty. Period. Thinking it does means a brutal disregard for the importance of human life if you really think sex is good enough reason to take it.
4 witnesses ? Nowhere do i see any need for actual PROOF of deed. You only need 4 MEN to agree this or that WOMAN should die. That is insane and unlawful. If you can't see how misogynistic your religion is, it only shows how deep in their own delusions theists can be.
But this is not the main problem: those stonings are made in the name of Islam. It does not matter if all those conditions you described are met: your religion is the only reason those murders took place, and as such is responsible for them. Without Islam, those stonings simply would not have happened, so the blame is on your primitive religion.
PS: Emotional responses are normal when someone condones MURDER !
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4+ witnesses at the same time at the same place
if it was a live sex act in a Muslim country and at least one of you is married and has a family, stoning is sentenced
this is called credibility,... you can't be a hypocrite and claim you follow this religion
in a religious society, the family and tight-knitted community is what is desired
If some members want to cheat on their wives and show it off to their community, then they will be punished for it if they're caught.
They have the option to DIVORCE, however these people found it convenient to cheat on their family and show it live to 4 or more people. Again you can't enjoy the benefits of a religious society and then be a hypocrite and cheat the community.
I don't know what kind of community you want to live in, but I would like to live in an environment where people are honest with one another and don't play head games, and cheat on one another. If people want to cheat on their families, then do it in a private/secure environment. Why do you want to show it LIVE to 4 or people? This is a civilized community, not a pig farm.
(April 22, 2011 at 8:00 am)Zen Badger Wrote: But I did have a spouse, I left my wife to be with Kichi and it was about about 18 months before we were divorced.
And Kichi and I were fornicating wildy the whole time.
1. This event occurred in a nation with secular laws.
2. I have a feeling your spouse wasn't Muslim.
3. I doubt the fornication occurred in front of 4 or more people.
Having said that you will not be sentenced if you convert.
Now hypothetically speaking, if your ex/family were Muslim and this adultery act occurred in a country with islamic laws AND the act was performed LIVE in front of FOUR witnesses who are willing to testify in court..THEN...... you'll be sentenced to stoning.
You can't be a hypocrite and enjoy the perks of a tight-knitted community.
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RE: TV boss found guilty of beheading wife.
April 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm
(April 22, 2011 at 2:54 pm)ruhollah Wrote: This is a civilized community, not a pig farm.
again your ignorance astounds me. where do you get off saying that stoning people is civilised?
compared to western countries your muslim ruled one IS a fucking pig farm.
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