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Evidence for Believing
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Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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(September 30, 2019 at 9:30 pm)Inqwizitor Wrote: Straw-man god, par excellence.  Well done...

If in your opinion it's a strawman god then you are now obliged to define the real god.
AFAICS nowhere have you have made an attempt at defining the god you actually believe in, so this is an ideal opportunity. What is the real god?*


*Points will be deducted for any mention of philosophers/theologians, dead or otherwise.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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The "evidence" for believing appears to be that bunches of people believe it, and that at least one person believes that genesis is a science textbook.  Am I missing any other "evidence"?
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You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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No more @Lek

I guess, he's basking in his  Violin theistic  Think
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(September 30, 2019 at 10:21 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:
(September 24, 2019 at 7:19 pm)Lek Wrote: If you were seeking with a true heart and he hasn't come to you then I can't say, but you must be open to him coming to you in a way you wouldn't think he should.  But all I know is my situation.  You've done your search and you've made a choice.  I  would still keep my mind open, which is probably what you do.  Sometimes it's a matter of timing. Because he hasn't shown you yet doesn't mean he won't.  People come to God during all points in life.

I have heard that identical claim from Muslims, Wiccans, Native Americans, Buddhists, pagans and many others. So, who is right? You can't all be right but you can all be wrong. If their personal experiences aren't right, how can yours be?

They can all reveal God.
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(October 1, 2019 at 4:50 pm)Lek Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 10:21 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I have heard that identical claim from Muslims, Wiccans, Native Americans, Buddhists, pagans and many others. So, who is right? You can't all be right but you can all be wrong. If their personal experiences aren't right, how can yours be?

They can all reveal God.

Could you please define and describe the god you believe exists?

I.E., do any ancient texts/holy books accurately depict it? If so, which ones? Does it interact with the physical universe and/or the sentient beings within the universe in any detectable, verifiable and repeatable way? Or whatever other pertinent information you might think would add to your description.

You might have done it in the past, but I don't see it in any of your latest threads.

Thanks!

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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(October 1, 2019 at 4:50 pm)Lek Wrote:
(September 30, 2019 at 10:21 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: I have heard that identical claim from Muslims, Wiccans, Native Americans, Buddhists, pagans and many others. So, who is right? You can't all be right but you can all be wrong. If their personal experiences aren't right, how can yours be?

They can all reveal God.

Or they can all reveal the same or similar common cognitive disfunction and emotional craving inherited from our ancesters, who were nothing more than merely the least difunctional of various kluges of extemporized neurological circuitry thrown together by contingent circumstances.


Yes, I know, you emotionally crave to be more than that, but that's purely because you are nothing more than that.
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