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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 3, 2020 at 1:21 pm
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 3, 2020 at 2:05 pm
(January 2, 2020 at 2:50 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Bible and thermodynamics?  
I think you miss my point.
I make it simple for you.
Birds have existed far longer than science, if I say birds don't contradict the rules of aerodynamics would you find that funny also?
My point was, whats true remains true even thought it may not be fully understood. The bible writers had no idea of the concept of thermodynamics, yet the creation in scripture doesn't contradict it, energy formed matter and at the end, that same matter is converted back into energy.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up - 2 Peter 3:10
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 3, 2020 at 2:10 pm
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2020 at 2:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
"Peter" is reciting the culturally important myth of the soul forge, above. You're as bad as one of our quranic miracle nutters.
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 3, 2020 at 2:23 pm
(January 3, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: "Peter" is reciting the culturally important myth of the soul forge, above. You're as bad as one of our quranic miracle nutters.
Ok.... but where's the contradiction?
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 3, 2020 at 2:29 pm
I'll leave you to work that out.
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 4, 2020 at 10:52 pm
I am a produce of your imagination. I am not really here. I swear to god.
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 4, 2020 at 11:22 pm
Aloha OP:
There is no such thing as time, or space. Einstein was a freaky haired quack(don't look at my avatar). And, I don't care which physicist you adhere to. True, there is no such thing as "nothing" but, the bible clearly indicates that the universe first, earth second, were made from something and not "ex nilio". Energy is not "nothing". Actually, it is everything! NOT SPACE! If we had this conversation millions of light years beyond earth: what time is it?
But, "supernatural"--that dog won't hunt, that plane won't fly! If God established nature then, He can only operate preternaturally: with-in the bounds of the nature He established. "Preternatural" is natural: yes! Just really, really hard to explain! But, "supernatural" is not going to get you anywhere here. Hint: no magic sky God allowed. Nature and preternatural is more than enough for all of us.
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RE: Being cannot come from Non-being
January 7, 2020 at 7:08 am
I think that you're conflating conventions of measurement with the phenomena being measured, Hai. A day might be longer to a species on a planet with a slower spin....but they will still count the "x"'s since they last saw daylight.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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