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The face veil pre-dates Islam

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The face veil pre-dates Islam
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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 8:17 am
Face veil.

Paper bag.


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Same function...

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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 10:03 am
In an alternate reality where Islam never got a foothold, the Middle East most likely comes under Orthodox Christianity, and the women still wind up covering their heads, and possibly even wear veils due to retention of tribal customs of the Middle East already in place. If one went strictly by the Koran, the only requirement for women's dress is that it be modest. Modesty includes not drawing undue attention to oneself and arguably would be better met by adopting the prevailing dress of the region rather than sticking with traditional clothing that causes the woman to stand out; but that last part is just my humble opinion.
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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 6:35 pm
(December 9, 2019 at 7:22 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, if the veil pre-dates Islam, then Johnson isn't being anti-Muslim, he's being anti-Arab.

And I really, REALLY doubt the claim that many Muslim women go veiled because 'they want to appear modest'.  I think it's much more likely that they go veiled because their patriarchal society is mind-wobblingly insecure.

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There is a large possibility in my perspective that he "uses" whatever cause to win more votes; his apology after seeing that xenophobic behavior isn't really winning. In other words he is trying to win both camps right now: the Muslims -via his apology- and the xenophobes via his xenophobic statements.

He's belly dancing over the contradictions.
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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm
He apologized?  That doesn't sound like Boris...

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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 6:43 pm
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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 6:53 pm
Yes, the Quran doesn't mention stoning.  But the Haditha do, and a lot of Muslim societies practice it.  Saying that stoning is not an Islamic practice because it isn't mentioned in the Quran is like saying that praying with folded hands isn't Christian because it doesn't happen in the Bible.

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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 9, 2019 at 7:32 pm (This post was last modified: December 9, 2019 at 7:33 pm by WinterHold.)
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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 10, 2019 at 2:26 am
(December 9, 2019 at 7:32 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote:Is it a *choice* to adopt what somebody else telling you is a requirement?

Yes. Of course. It's called "adopting a cause"..just like Boris.

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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 10, 2019 at 2:54 am
A lot of things pre date Islam. It's just that creators of Islam took the worst and stupidest things from junkyard of human ideas and made a religion out of it, some of which include: FGM, face veils, flat Earth, God, angels, genies, fatwas, jihad, killing people for apostasy, beating women, antisemitism, etc.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The face veil pre-dates Islam
December 10, 2019 at 3:34 am (This post was last modified: December 10, 2019 at 4:13 am by WinterHold.)
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