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Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 10, 2019 at 11:21 am
Yep, it’s official, Congress has finally unveiled articles of impeachment against Trump: abuse of office, and obstruction of Congress.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/politics/...index.html
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 10, 2019 at 1:29 pm
(December 10, 2019 at 11:21 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Yep, it’s official, Congress has finally unveiled articles of impeachment against Trump: abuse of office, and obstruction of Congress.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/politics/...index.html
Funny they didn't include 'obstruction of justice'. It seems like that would have been a natural follow-on to 'obstruction of Congress'.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 10, 2019 at 1:32 pm
Too bad none of the GOP butt-lickers in the Senate are going to give a shit.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 10, 2019 at 2:35 pm
(December 10, 2019 at 1:32 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Too bad none of the GOP butt-lickers in the Senate are going to give a shit.
To be perfectly fair - if the shoe was on the other foot - the outcome would be exactly the same.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 10, 2019 at 10:01 pm
I'm getting a little sick of the impeachment story. To be honest, as others have said in various threads on the forum, it's likely that nothing will come of this. One is forced to think back on the Clinton impeachment, where the guilty/not guilty votes lined up almost entirely with the Republican/Democrat party line. So, yeah, Trump's being impeached, and it'll probably die in the Senate just like it's expected to, for better or for worse.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 16, 2019 at 4:28 am
(December 10, 2019 at 10:01 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I'm getting a little sick of the impeachment story. To be honest, as others have said in various threads on the forum, it's likely that nothing will come of this. One is forced to think back on the Clinton impeachment, where the guilty/not guilty votes lined up almost entirely with the Republican/Democrat party line. So, yeah, Trump's being impeached, and it'll probably die in the Senate just like it's expected to, for better or for worse.
You make a rather good point. I want Dump, I mean Trump gone as much as the next person. I really do. But I don't think the House will vote for impeachment. I just don't see them getting enough Republicans - as well as some Democrats are apparently getting cold feet as well. The average American will see this news and think "why should I care about this? My 401K is doing great, I have a steady job and the economy is doing rather decent." To lots of Americans this story just looks as if Democrats are just bitter over the 2016 election. Which that obviously isn't the case. But that is how it looks.
And it is weird how people keep pointing to polls that show 50% of Americans want him impeached. But really? If 2016 taught us anything those polls really are not to be trusted. I don't care what they say.
Again, I want Trump gone as much as the next guy. But it will die out.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 16, 2019 at 5:59 am
(December 16, 2019 at 4:28 am)NightHawk Wrote: (December 10, 2019 at 10:01 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I'm getting a little sick of the impeachment story. To be honest, as others have said in various threads on the forum, it's likely that nothing will come of this. One is forced to think back on the Clinton impeachment, where the guilty/not guilty votes lined up almost entirely with the Republican/Democrat party line. So, yeah, Trump's being impeached, and it'll probably die in the Senate just like it's expected to, for better or for worse.
You make a rather good point. I want Dump, I mean Trump gone as much as the next person. I really do. But I don't think the House will vote for impeachment. I just don't see them getting enough Republicans - as well as some Democrats are apparently getting cold feet as well. The average American will see this news and think "why should I care about this? My 401K is doing great, I have a steady job and the economy is doing rather decent." To lots of Americans this story just looks as if Democrats are just bitter over the 2016 election. Which that obviously isn't the case. But that is how it looks.
And it is weird how people keep pointing to polls that show 50% of Americans want him impeached. But really? If 2016 taught us anything those polls really are not to be trusted. I don't care what they say.
Again, I want Trump gone as much as the next guy. But it will die out.
I think you're a little confused. It's virtually a dead cert that the House will vote to impeach sometime in the next few days. It's unlikely in the extreme that the Senate will vote to convict.
What I find extremely troubling is that McConnell is coordinating the trial with the White House. Since when do jurors get to arrange things with the accused?
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 16, 2019 at 6:30 am
(December 16, 2019 at 5:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 16, 2019 at 4:28 am)NightHawk Wrote: You make a rather good point. I want Dump, I mean Trump gone as much as the next person. I really do. But I don't think the House will vote for impeachment. I just don't see them getting enough Republicans - as well as some Democrats are apparently getting cold feet as well. The average American will see this news and think "why should I care about this? My 401K is doing great, I have a steady job and the economy is doing rather decent." To lots of Americans this story just looks as if Democrats are just bitter over the 2016 election. Which that obviously isn't the case. But that is how it looks.
And it is weird how people keep pointing to polls that show 50% of Americans want him impeached. But really? If 2016 taught us anything those polls really are not to be trusted. I don't care what they say.
Again, I want Trump gone as much as the next guy. But it will die out.
I think you're a little confused. It's virtually a dead cert that the House will vote to impeach sometime in the next few days. It's unlikely in the extreme that the Senate will vote to convict.
What I find extremely troubling is that McConnell is coordinating the trial with the White House. Since when do jurors get to arrange things with the accused?
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Yeah sorry got things a little mixed up my bad. And that is troubling. Sadly however that doesn't surprise me. McConnell is probably one of the most corrupt politicians of our time.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 18, 2019 at 2:11 pm
(December 16, 2019 at 6:30 am)NightHawk Wrote: (December 16, 2019 at 5:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think you're a little confused. It's virtually a dead cert that the House will vote to impeach sometime in the next few days. It's unlikely in the extreme that the Senate will vote to convict.
What I find extremely troubling is that McConnell is coordinating the trial with the White House. Since when do jurors get to arrange things with the accused?
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Yeah sorry got things a little mixed up my bad. And that is troubling. Sadly however that doesn't surprise me. McConnell is probably one of the most corrupt politicians of our time.
That reads a little more accurately.
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RE: Dems announce articles of impeachment against Trump
December 18, 2019 at 2:27 pm
(December 18, 2019 at 2:11 pm)ohio_drg Wrote: (December 16, 2019 at 6:30 am)NightHawk Wrote: Yeah sorry got things a little mixed up my bad. And that is troubling. Sadly however that doesn't surprise me. McConnell is probably one of the most corrupt politicians of our time.
That reads a little more accurately.
There we go!
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