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10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
#31
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
Lol at Otangelo explaining what a syllogism is, like we don’t know. 😂
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#32
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
Well LFC, religitards envision atheists only having the single thought of god not existing and that's all they talk about. When they visit not only are they concerned with saving our eternal souls, but our one track minds as well.
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#33
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
A fine tuned universe if it exists stronger supports atheism rather then theism .
"Change was inevitable"


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#34
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
(January 3, 2020 at 8:25 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Otangelo

5.  Provide proof, from scientific journals, to back up this assertion.

Some of the worlds leading scientists in the field of synthetic chemistry, biochemistry, and computational biology, like James Tour, Graham Cairns Smith, Eugene Koonin and Steve Benner have stated that solving the mystery of the origin of life is  categorically not possible, that science has no clue how to solve the riddle, and  the most difficult problem that faces evolutionary biology and, arguably, biology in general.



Eugene Koonin


 advisory editorial board of Trends in Genetics, writes in his book: The Logic of Chance: 
" The Nature and Origin of Biological Evolution, Eugene V. Koonin, page 351:

" The origin of life is the most difficult problem that faces evolutionary biology and, arguably, biology in general. Indeed, the problem is so hard and the current state of 
the art seems so frustrating that some researchers prefer to dismiss the entire issue as being outside the scientific domain altogether, on the grounds that unique
events are not conducive to scientific study.

A succession of exceedingly unlikely steps is essential for the origin of life, from the synthesis and accumulation of nucleotides to the origin of translation; through the
multiplication of probabilities, these make the final outcome seem almost like a miracle. The difficulties remain formidable. For all the effort, we do not currently have
coherent and plausible models for the path from simple organic molecules to the first life forms. Most damningly, the powerful mechanisms of biological evolution were
not available for all the stages preceding the emergence of replicator systems. Given all these major difficulties, it appears prudent to seriously consider radical alternatives
for the origin of life. " 

James Tour:

Dr. Tour on the Origin of Life at Syracuse University Cru  min. 23:53
Origin of life research is a retarded field of science little as advanced in the field since the highly touted 1952 Miller year experiment after 2/3 of a century the world is no closer to generating life
from small molecules or any molecules for that matter than it was in 1952 one could argue that origin of life research is even more befuddle now than it was in 1952 since more questions have evolved in answers since we understand much more about the cell it's made us realize that we're further from having a cell.

At least Miller Urey took some simple compounds passed them across a large voltage gap and saw some scrambled amino acids at least that was simple stuff going on in there now there are really elaborate experiments and still they get very little this explains the retarded state of origin of life research 


It appears that nature itself provides conclusive evidence that natural processes are incapable of assembling a living cell.Wherever one looks there are problems. 8

Pssst! Don't tell the creationists, but scientists don't have a clue how life began
The RNA world is so dissatisfying that some frustrated scientists are resorting to much more far out—literally—speculation. Dissatisfied with conventional theories of life's beginning, Crick conjectured that aliens came to Earth in a spaceship and planted the seeds of life here billions of years ago. Creationists are no doubt thrilled that origin-of-life research has reached such an impasse (see for example the screed "Darwinism Refuted," which cites my 1991 article), but they shouldn't be. Their explanations suffer from the same flaw: What created the divine Creator? And at least scientists are making an honest effort to solve life's mystery instead of blaming it all on God.


Steve Benner: 

Paradoxes in the origin of life. 2015 Jan 22 Benner SA1.


Steve Benner is the founder and president of the Westheimer Corporation, a private research organization, and a prior Harvard University professor. He is one of the world’s leading authorities on abiogenesis. This is his evaluation of what he has observed:  Discussed here is an alternative approach to guide research into the origins of life, one that focuses on “paradoxes”, pairs of statements, both grounded in theory and observation, that (taken
together) suggest that the “origins problem” cannot be solved.

We are now 60 years into the modern era of prebiotic chemistry. That era has produced tens of thousands of papers attempting to define processes by which “molecules that look like biology” might arise from “molecules that do not look like biology” …. For the most part, these papers report “success” in the sense that those papers define the term…. And yet, the problem remains unsolved

Graham Cairns Smith: 

The implausibility of prevital nucleic acid

Genetic takeover, Cairns Smith, page 66:

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Now you may say that there are alternative ways of building up nucleotides, and perhaps there was some geochemical way on the early Earth. But what we know of the experimental difficulties in nucleotide synthesis speaks strongly against any such supposition. However it is to be put together, a nucleotide is too complex and metastable a molecule for there to be any reason to expect an easy synthesis.

If you were to consider in more detail a process such as the purification of an intermediate ( to form amide bonds between amino acids and nucleotides ) you would find many subsidiary operations — washings, pH changes and so on. (Remember Merrifield’s machine: for one overall reaction, making one peptide bond, there were about 90 distinct operations required.)
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#35
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
Again reciting your previous stated comments doesn't help you
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#36
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
Maybe if I quote "I Dream of Jeannie" enough, she'll appear in my bedroom and grant all my wishes.
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#37
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
(January 4, 2020 at 4:29 pm)no one Wrote: Maybe if I quote "I Dream of Jeannie" enough, she'll appear in my bedroom and grant all my wishes.

No reason to drag Barbara Eden into this! Mad
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#38
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
You can ask Samantha or Endora to grant your wishes.
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#39
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
The guy is basicly spamming... heh I like them to put out a fight, not admissions of dumbness
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#40
RE: 10 Syllogistic arguments for Gods existence
(January 4, 2020 at 7:04 pm)no one Wrote: You can ask Samantha or Endora to grant your wishes.

I'll go with Sam...

Endora looks too much like a bitchy drag queen I once met in San Francisco.......  

I've got no wishes she can help me with.....


Unless she owns a vintage motorcycle shop....
....
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