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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 4:04 pm
Unlike tinker-god, there's evidence of my intervention. 
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:14 pm
So it sounds like someone here believes that due to happenstance that mutations occur, all the ones that were needed DID occur. What a perfect world!
For that giraffe to be able to sustain and take advantage of his long neck, a myriad of previous lucky mutations fell right into place.
Who’s that gullible.
As for protein production and the sheer magnitude of odds needed to be overcome for just one to come into existence ....
Assume only 200 proteins are needed for life (it is up to 387 plus RNA entities)
Good luck!!!
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:15 pm
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We know that the ones we need did occur. If we needed Good Luck™...then fine, but we obviously had Good Luck™.......because......
.....................here we are..............
Does that make the world perfect? Probably not. Certainly not in the context of your own beliefs, right? I think we can both agree that we don't live in a perfect world, lol.
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:22 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2020 at 7:23 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
So back to his usual arguments from incredulity and the fallacy of irreducible complexity
Same old same old 
(February 18, 2020 at 7:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We know that the ones we need did occur. If we needed Good Luck™...then fine, but we obviously had Good Luck™.......because......
.....................here we are..............
Does that make the world perfect? Probably not. Certainly not in the context of your own beliefs, right? I think we can both agree that we don't live in a perfect world, lol. It's reached a point were he thinks just repeating his opinion counts as an argument
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:46 pm
How can you be so shamelessly ignorant tater tot?
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:46 pm
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I think he reached that point before he got here.....but he's arguing against his own silly opinions at this point. He also thinks that we got all the mutations that we need in a lucky world, he just thinks that god touched us in our no-wheres to make that happen. Nothing about god touching us in the right no-wheres makes this world perfect, again in his own opinion, so...you know, what gives, whats the problem, aside from biology not needing his handsy god to operate?
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:52 pm
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(February 18, 2020 at 7:14 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: So it sounds like someone here believes that due to happenstance that mutations occur, all the ones that were needed DID occur. What a perfect world!
For that giraffe to be able to sustain and take advantage of his long neck, a myriad of previous lucky mutations fell right into place.
Who’s that gullible.
As for protein production and the sheer magnitude of odds needed to be overcome for just one to come into existence ....
Assume only 200 proteins are needed for life (it is up to 387 plus RNA entities)
Good luck!!!
What you're neglecting to notice is the trillions upon trillions of mutations that occur and get weeded out by natural selection. Inimical mutations make an organism less likely to live long enough to breed and pass that onto an offspring. Advantageous mutations do just the opposite.
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 7:54 pm
(February 18, 2020 at 3:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think you should change your user name.
Demonstration that the grand nudger was nudged.
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 9:54 pm
“What you're neglecting to notice is the trillions upon trillions of mutations that occur and get weeded out by natural selection”
So we’re there billions and billions of giraffes in the making to choose from trillions of mutations? Really now
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RE: By chance?
February 18, 2020 at 10:10 pm
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Quote:“What you're neglecting to notice is the trillions upon trillions of mutations that occur and get weeded out by natural selection”
So we’re there billions and billions of giraffes in the making to choose from trillions of mutations? Really now
Keep being disingenuous
(February 18, 2020 at 7:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 18, 2020 at 7:14 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: So it sounds like someone here believes that due to happenstance that mutations occur, all the ones that were needed DID occur. What a perfect world!
For that giraffe to be able to sustain and take advantage of his long neck, a myriad of previous lucky mutations fell right into place.
Who’s that gullible.
As for protein production and the sheer magnitude of odds needed to be overcome for just one to come into existence ....
Assume only 200 proteins are needed for life (it is up to 387 plus RNA entities)
Good luck!!!
What you're neglecting to notice is the trillions upon trillions of mutations that occur and get weeded out by natural selection. Inimical mutations make an organism less likely to live long enough to breed and pass that onto an offspring. Advantageous mutations do just the opposite.
Boru No surprise his response is fallacy ladden.You are patient with this guy .
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