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Question about a specific claimed miracle
#41
RE: Question about a specific claimed miracle
So, doesn't look like a "Miracle" at all, just some sort of "trick" that is done annually to bring in the crowds money$$$.

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#42
RE: Question about a specific claimed miracle
(February 11, 2020 at 11:51 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(February 11, 2020 at 9:43 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I couldn't recall the figure. When my sister did it she had an in person sit down interview with the local bishop. It was over 20 years ago, though. What rules apply now? I don't know.
Opting out of paying church tax can be done in the townhall. You are also automatically removed from any statistics as being member of the according church (protestant or catholic). You are officially not a member of the church anymore after having done this. Bothering to go up to your bishop and what not is your own business, and afaik completely unnecessary. The church has no say in you officially leaving.

I wonder did she do that because of word rocking back to the devout RCC parents through the RCC aparatus? I don't know, so I shall have to ask her next time we speak (we are in different countries leading very different lives).

Nevertheless, for context, the long deceased parents were devout RCC. How on earth they managed to raise 4 flat out atheists is beyond me. To colour in that picture, my father tried to instute a family, nightly recitation of the Holy rosary at one point. He gave up for lack of attendance. Astonishingly, everyone seemed to have somewhere else they had to be at that very time. Quelle surprise.

Very quickly, a mutual truce appeared. If we all agree a truce, then we can all ignore it and pretend it isn't there. And thus was peace restored. There are two interesting things about this.

1. Devout as they were, thay also abhored the imposition of belief on anyone. They were gentle christians/catholics.
2. They were quite surprisingly happy to ignore the fact that they spawned 4 godless heathens because they loved their children. And I happily admit they did, before god, even.

Before they passed, though, it was my privilege to have a deep heart to heart with both on the topic of what you believe and why. Or don't. It wasn't heated or anything remotely like. It was equals quietly exchanging ideas. And the mutual respect was a thing to see. 

I can only aspire to do the same for my own children.
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#43
RE: Question about a specific claimed miracle
I just realized that i was somehow ...lacking precision. What you are doing in the townahll is actually leaving the church, the canceling of church tax is automatically done in conjuction with this. Again: Leaving the church (and stopping to pay taxes) takes you about 10mins in the townhall.
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#44
RE: Question about a specific claimed miracle
(February 13, 2020 at 2:32 am)Deesse23 Wrote: I just realized that i was somehow ...lacking precision. What you are doing in the townahll is actually leaving the church, the canceling of church tax is automatically done in conjuction with this. Again: Leaving the church (and stopping to pay taxes) takes you about 10mins in the townhall.

Bugger.

I've been telling people who ask just to burn down their churches...
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