Official live update of spread of COVID19

[ignoramus]

Just out of curiosity, out of all those Americans with guns, who has only one?

[Brian37]

Just out of curiosity, out of all those Americans with guns, who has only one?

The truth is a minority of Americans own firearms, but, within those households they have multiple firearms.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...ownership/

[ignoramus]

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3 percent of American adults (individuals in this case, not households) own half the nation's firearms.
Combined with the latest Small Arms Survey estimate, that would mean that 3 percent of American adults own nearly one quarter of the world's civilian firearms stockpile.

Holy Shite!

[Brian37]

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3 percent of American adults (individuals in this case, not households) own half the nation's firearms.
Combined with the latest Small Arms Survey estimate, that would mean that 3 percent of American adults own nearly one quarter of the world's civilian firearms stockpile.

Holy Shite!

No shit. The bullshit idea that more guns makes society safer, is as stupid as morons who think social infecting creates long term immunity.

[Athene]

"Something's got to give".....

Yes, data, nothing more. Going too fast can potentially make things worse. 

The world has to follow the science and medicine and ultimately a vaccine.

Until then staying in place is the best practice.

I'm not proposing that there should be a one-size-fits-all approach to the process or that we should ignore the data and open tomorrow, Brian.
What I'm saying is that a nationwide shutdown is not sustainable for 1-2 years with resulting in a substantial amount pain and suffering--and yes, even death. There are workable solutions towards improving the odds for the most vulnerable among us besides everyone staying inside and out of work indefinitely.


And I disagree that the world HAS to follow a vaccine. Personally, I will not taking it---at least not one that's been fast-tracked and/or in it's debut phase. As a rule of thumb, I don't take new drugs or treatments unless I feel the benefits outweigh the risks to me.
I'll let other folks try it out and wait and see how things pan out for a few years. Then I might take it, though I'd much prefer it not be one that Gates is behind.

And no, I am NOT an anti-vaxxer. I'm absolutely convinced that science behind vaccines is legit--but the motivations of Gates and his corrupt as fuck pharmaceutical interests? Not so much. 

Why anyone wouldn't a least question a brand new vaccine funded by Thanos is beyond me.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I'm not proposing that there should be a one-size-fits-all approach to the process or that we should ignore the data and open tomorrow, Brian.

Then your ignoring the data 

What I'm saying is that a nationwide shutdown is not sustainable for 1-2 years with resulting in a substantial amount pain and suffering--and yes, even death. There are workable solutions towards improving the odds for the most vulnerable among us besides everyone staying inside and out of work indefinitely.

Neither is rushing it 

And I disagree that the world HAS to follow a vaccine. Personally, I will not taking it---at least not one that's been fast-tracked and/or in it's debut phase. As a rule of thumb, I don't take new drugs or treatments unless I feel the benefits outweigh the risks to me.
I'll let other folks try it out and wait and see how things pan out for a few years. Then I might take it, though I'd much prefer it not be one that Gates is behind.

That's not how it works 

And no, I am NOT an anti-vaxxer. I'm absolutely convinced that science behind vaccines is legit--but the motivations of Gates and his corrupt as fuck pharmaceutical interests? Not so much. 

Conspiracy 

Why anyone wouldn't a least question a brand new vaccine funded by Thanos is beyond me.

[Brian37]

"Something's got to give".....

Yes, data, nothing more. Going too fast can potentially make things worse. 

The world has to follow the science and medicine and ultimately a vaccine.

Until then staying in place is the best practice.

I'm not proposing that there should be a one-size-fits-all approach to the process or that we should ignore the data and open tomorrow, Brian.
What I'm saying is that a nationwide shutdown is not sustainable for 1-2 years with resulting in a substantial amount pain and suffering--and yes, even death. There are workable solutions towards improving the odds for the most vulnerable among us besides everyone staying inside and out of work indefinitely.


And I disagree that the world HAS to follow a vaccine. Personally, I will not taking it---at least not one that's been fast-tracked and/or in it's debut phase. As a rule of thumb, I don't take new drugs or treatments unless I feel the benefits outweigh the risks to me.
I'll let other folks try it out and wait and see how things pan out for a few years. Then I might take it, though I'd much prefer it not be one that Gates is behind.

And no, I am NOT an anti-vaxxer. I'm absolutely convinced that science behind vaccines is legit--but the motivations of Gates and his corrupt as fuck pharmaceutical interests? Not so much. 

Why anyone wouldn't a least question a brand new vaccine funded by Thanos is beyond me.

AIDs still does not have a vaccine, but it had greatly advanced in drugs that prolong life. 

And it isn't about "one size fits all" but best practices fit all. 

No matter the illness, even outside this pandemic, even with everyday everything else, the individual human is just that, an individual. And what may work for one may not work for another. BUT what is universal are best practices by scientists, in using standard testing and trials and control groups.

It does no good for humanity to simply guess in science with something like this. It will take time to get it right, but that is always far better than rushing.

[ignoramus]

One Aussie expert said that it's possible that no vaccine can be made. (like flu and common cold).
It'll be something we'll all get used to.

A yearly culling so to speak.
Would that be nature doing the population control for us

[Fireball]

No 

1. It doesn't matter how much it economically hurts .It's how this has to go 

2. Vaccine or no this is how it has to go 

3. And no the onus is on everyone till this ends

It does matter how much it hurts economically--especially to those living on the margins and who were already living paycheck to paycheck. The ability to earn an income in not simply a matter indulging in luxury and treats for millions of Americans; it's a matter of life and death. 

There are more than enough Americans who will not stand idly by for 1-2 years being locked down like inmates, lose everything they've ever worked for, and/or risk being unable to feed their families until the virus "disappears"--Not when there are other conceivable ways to mitigate the mortality rate while waiting on a vaccine.

The virus is not ending anytime soon. There's also a possibility that a vaccine will never come to fruition, and the virus will become endemic and never ever go away.

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1. I call i so because it is .And worst still it's an arbitrary one 

2.Yes but that's not freaking happening .So put away your Alex Jones brand tinfoil hat .

3.Accept it's not overreach and your kind aren't confronting it .Half of you are just sulking .The other half are waving around guns .

What's "my kind", Tiz?

Do tell.

I know! I know! You're a gun-toting middle-aged fat boy!   Tiz, you don't have a clue who you are talking to about that gun-toting shit. You really ought to be doing your homework instead of slapping one-word responses on people...and accusing them of being white people watching Alex Jones and waving guns around. Fuxxake.

[Brian37]

One Aussie expert said that it's possible that no vaccine can be made. (like flu and common cold).
It'll be something we'll all get used to.

A yearly culling so to speak.
Would that be nature doing the population control for us

That is what is known as "herd immunity" which does happen, but over generations, not by the bullshit idea that infecting others in one setting will make the entire species immune. 

Even with this virus, if you watch the news individuals react differently depending on multiple factors. Many will get through it but many die. It is simple evolution as to why a species becomes immune to something collectively, it doesn't happen overnight or within one generation.

Vaccines are a shortcut to the "herd immunity" that nature produces over several generations.

If a vaccine isn't available, scientist have always found ways to make an illness more manageable. 

With any virus/bacteria it is as simple as figuring out the DNA/RNA code, then figuring out which sequence is causing the problem, then finding a counter code to stop it.

I over simplified that, yes. But drug or vaccine, that is the goal, to disrupt the reproduction of the bacteria/virus. You can think of it as like taking a bolt cutter to a metal chain.