Official live update of spread of COVID19

[The Valkyrie]

The cousin is being treated with Remdesivir and has low oxygen levels that they can't seem to get stabilized. Since he's already been sick at least a week, I am not surprised by this.

I guess we just wait for updates.

Fingers crossed.

[Fake Messiah]

81-person French orgy broken up for violating COVID-19 curfew

“The event was in breach of the curfew, and there were also problems with masks and social distancing,” an investigator told the outlet.

“Those involved in the party cooperated with the police, and there was no resistance to the police.”

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/french-org...tions/amp/

[arewethereyet]

The cousin is being treated with Remdesivir and has low oxygen levels that they can't seem to get stabilized.  Since he's already been sick at least a week, I am not surprised by this.  

I guess we just wait for updates.

Fingers crossed.

Still in the hospital and they still can't get his oxygen levels up where they need to be.  Apparently just sitting up causes his levels to drop dramatically.  He isn't intubated, yet, but they are doing some sort of treatment on him four times a day at this point.  I get info third or fourth hand so I don't have much in the way of details.

His wife, who is older than he is, was also sick but was diagnosed with flu, given some medication and is doing better.  

COVID is so strange in it's symptoms, variances in severity, and the way it seems to just not bother some people who have definitely been directly exposed.

Husband talked about driving out there but was talked out of it.  He can't see his cousin anyway and doesn't need to travel a thousand miles, be worn down, and exposed to who knows what in the process.

If Charlie doesn't pull out of this my husband is going to be devastated.  He is really the only family member husband has had constant contact with throughout his life.

[Fake Messiah]

Meanwhile, in Florida

[Irreligious Atheist]

Bret Weinstein thinks there's a 90 % chance it came from the lab. It was anti-science to say that the official story shouldn't be questioned. In science, you don't rule out possibilities like that off the bat.

[Fake Messiah]

Australia backs WHO’s Wuhan findings on Covid being unlikely to have leaked out of a Wuhan lab

On Tuesday the WHO team that visited Wuhan all but dismissed the lab leakage theory, while giving some credence to China’s focus on the possibility of transmission via frozen food.

The team found no evidence of widespread circulation of the virus in Wuhan prior to December 2019, and said it was still unclear how it got into the Huanan seafood market, where the virus was initially detected.

But, they added, “all the work that has been done on the virus and trying to identify its origin continue to point toward a natural reservoir”.

The idea that the virus came from a laboratory-related incident was “extremely unlikely” and “isn’t a hypothesis we suggest implies further study”, said Peter Ben Embarek, the WHO’s food safety and animal disease specialist and chair of the investigation team.

Asked for further details, Embarek said the team looked at the arguments for and against the hypothesis, and while “accidents do happen … there had been no publication or research of this virus or one close to this virus, anywhere in the world.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...s-comments

[Irreligious Atheist]

Australia backs WHO’s Wuhan findings on Covid being unlikely to have leaked out of a Wuhan lab

On Tuesday the WHO team that visited Wuhan all but dismissed the lab leakage theory, while giving some credence to China’s focus on the possibility of transmission via frozen food.

The team found no evidence of widespread circulation of the virus in Wuhan prior to December 2019, and said it was still unclear how it got into the Huanan seafood market, where the virus was initially detected.

But, they added, “all the work that has been done on the virus and trying to identify its origin continue to point toward a natural reservoir”.

The idea that the virus came from a laboratory-related incident was “extremely unlikely” and “isn’t a hypothesis we suggest implies further study”, said Peter Ben Embarek, the WHO’s food safety and animal disease specialist and chair of the investigation team.

Asked for further details, Embarek said the team looked at the arguments for and against the hypothesis, and while “accidents do happen … there had been no publication or research of this virus or one close to this virus, anywhere in the world.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...s-comments

The WHO that is funded in part by China? "Isn't a hypothesis we suggest implies further study"? That is about as anti-science as it gets. This sounds like argument from authority.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-did...arket.html

[Deesse23]

Bret Weinstein said so. Now that settles it.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Bret Weinstein said so. Now that settles it.

No one knows for sure where it came from yet, but it's finally becoming more acceptable in mainstream media to talk about the obvious. There's a good chance it came from the lab. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/...heory.html

This article shows how the investigation team is riddled with conflicts of interest and they called it a conspiracy theory long before their investigation began. https://www.wired.com/story/if-covid-19-...-ever-know.

[HappySkeptic]

Some people are pushing the lab theory. It isn't impossible, but I still think it is unlikely. The genetic modifications to the virus, compared to wild strains look to be random small defects, not engineered sections. So, it wasn't genetically engineered. It got its extra function from generational mutation. Some claim that this can be done artificially and deliberately, but I fail to see the likelihood, given that nature has all the tools to generate this (and why would anyone do that?)

Yes, it could've been an accidental lab release, but then one would have to prove the lab had this virus. Experts who set up the lab, and now visited the lab, say that lab protocols make this accidental release of anything unlikely. Take that as you will.

So, the lab idea isn't impossible, but unlikely. We also don't have evidence of a precursor virus in other animals with most of these mutations. So, we don't know a history of the mutations. That is great fodder for conspiracy theorists. I just see natural cause as being more likely, though who am I to judge? Most experts say this, so I'll go with their assessment for now.

Having said that, the WHO statements do seem a bit political.