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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 13, 2020 at 9:50 am
I do like some muscadines, but I believe the plum wines and mead are my particular preferred treats. I prefer the sweeter desert wines personally, because I'm a retired alcoholic and now I only drink for the enjoyment of the taste, not the other effects. If I just want to get messed up I'm all moonshine, but if I'm casual it's always on the dessert wine side.
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 13, 2020 at 10:24 am
That's too bad. I hope it's still in operation with whomever it was sold to.
They do really well running from the back to the door on the north wall. High single cordon. The yield under cover is insane...but the flavor is uninteresting - just sweet. I've been told that planting the root in soil outside the wall, and training the vines in through a collar...would solve this problem. Best of both worlds. Still only makes sense when you don't have alot of grapes, and you need to keep every one alive and producing at their fullest.
Winter injury is a big problem here in the bluegrass. Then we've got the usual pests and disease, and the usual customers concerned about products used to control those. If you're trying to grow european varieties, especially heirlooms....for a discerning customer..you pretty much have no other options given the climate here. Real shame, because soil is great - and alot of it is tough to find responsible use for on account of slope. So we grow american hybrids and count on terroir to make up for any real or perceived difference between them.
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 13, 2020 at 10:51 am
If it comes to white wine in Germany, then I prefer these 3 grape varieties:
Riesling, Traminer, Gewürztraminer.
Red wine - that is another matter.
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 13, 2020 at 1:21 pm
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(March 13, 2020 at 10:51 am)Dundee Wrote: If it comes to white wine in Germany, then I prefer these 3 grape varieties:
Riesling, Traminer, Gewürztraminer.
Red wine - that is another matter.
My personal taste OFC, I prefer red over white wine. I got hold of a rare Douro wine called the Oboé that had 17 % alcohol in volume. That stuff was a nice fruity wine and you couldn't feel the alcohol, at least till it got to your head. Gunpowder bottled I tell ya. Do not confuse Douro wine with Porto wine, Porto is sweet while Douro is pure red. Porto wine it's in its own category.
(March 13, 2020 at 10:24 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's too bad. I hope it's still in operation with whomever it was sold to.
They do really well running from the back to the door on the north wall. High single cordon. The yield under cover is insane...but the flavor is uninteresting - just sweet. I've been told that planting the root in soil outside the wall, and training the vines in through a collar...would solve this problem. Best of both worlds. Still only makes sense when you don't have alot of grapes, and you need to keep every one alive and producing at their fullest.
Winter injury is a big problem here in the bluegrass. Then we've got the usual pests and disease, and the usual customers concerned about products used to control those. If you're trying to grow european varieties, especially heirlooms....for a discerning customer..you pretty much have no other options given the climate here. Real shame, because soil is great - and alot of it is tough to find responsible use for on account of slope. So we grow american hybrids and count on terroir to make up for any real or perceived difference between them.
Regrettably, the buyers removed the vinyard to make a mansion. *nods head*
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 21, 2020 at 10:05 pm
And if it comes to red wine, I like these sorts:
Pinot noir, Merlot, Pinotage, Carménère - and some more. 
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 22, 2020 at 6:11 pm
I've been quite happy with a Seyval Blanc produced here in Missouri. The vineyards here are well-known and experienced.
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 23, 2020 at 7:33 pm
When it comes to American wines, I like Zinfandl. 
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 23, 2020 at 8:43 pm
Without the labels (or with labels switched) the great majority of people can’t tell wines apart. In fact, if you dye a white wine red, a wine snob will give different reviews of two glasses of the same wine.
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 23, 2020 at 11:01 pm
(March 23, 2020 at 8:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Without the labels (or with labels switched) the great majority of people can’t tell wines apart. In fact, if you dye a white wine red, a wine snob will give different reviews of two glasses of the same wine.
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RE: Can we also talk about the pleasures of good wine?
March 24, 2020 at 5:24 am
(March 23, 2020 at 8:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Without the labels (or with labels switched) the great majority of people can’t tell wines apart. In fact, if you dye a white wine red, a wine snob will give different reviews of two glasses of the same wine.
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