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A good reason not to believe in God
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 RE: A good reason not to believe in God
March 5, 2011 at 5:56 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2011 at 5:58 am by Captain Scarlet.)
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
  (March 5, 2011 at 5:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Sorry VOID that wasn't the reasoning I provided but the data used for the reasoning. This still makes no sense, are you trying to say that the bible is more likely to exist given the existence of a deity than the existence of men? And if so how are you determining the probabilities? Quote: You have to make sense of the questions raised and draw your conclusions. Like I said, I spent a lot of time scrutinising those questions thoroughly. If that is the case you should have something more substantial to present than "I've had a think about it" Quote: This was around 25 years ago initially. And I'm constantly testing and re-evaluating. About 15 years ago I became an atheist. 5 years ago I became Christian again. I'm interested in the subject and address questions as they arise. I'm not the type of person who bothers to remember the fine detail to relate to people. I use it for myself and move on. I've been here a couple of years now, and in that time presented a lot of data. Still that's no where need enough information I personally would require to honestly tackle the problem in hand. How the hell can you possibly think you are justified in believing that God is more likely given the evidence available when you admit you struggle to even tackle the problem? You've clearly got nothing of substance, and if it is something that you cannot determine then you are not justified in believing it. To say you think you are justified in believing in god in Bayesian terms (that god is more likely given the evidence) requires that you have a prior probability for the existence of a Christian God, a prior probability of the alternative gods and a prior probability of no god as well as a list of facts that you believe are more likely to be true given the existence of a Christian god than the other gods or no gods. Do you have any of that?
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 RE: A good reason not to believe in God
March 5, 2011 at 9:11 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2011 at 9:12 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(March 4, 2011 at 6:40 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Whilst Jesus the man was God on earth.. he was not also 100% God. He was, according to the doctrine I follow, fully God and fully man. So, I would like to know now how 'fully God and fully man' differs from fully mortal and fully immortal? (which is a contradiction).
It's like if you wielded a bike to a car and called it a cike, it's a full bike and a full car, but a cike in totality is not a 100% bike and 100% car, it's some proportion of the two, say 80/20.
God is the car, Man is the bike, Jesus is the Cike. Fully immortal and fully mortal still doesn't make sense as they are antithesis, a bike and a car are not two mutually exclusive terms.
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RE: A good reason not to believe in God
March 5, 2011 at 9:28 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2011 at 9:28 am by Edwardo Piet.)
That's it, it's fine if he's a proportion man and a proportion God. But as fr0d0 is still saying fully man and fully God, it still doesn't make sense yet (unless he's sometimes fully God and other times fully man).
 
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: A good reason not to believe in God
March 5, 2011 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2011 at 3:11 pm by fr0d0.)
 Quote:I believe in him. I am not concerned with his existence. My kids used to feel that way about Santa. But they grew out of it.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
What I'm talking about, is the monotonous atheist mantra of proof of existence, which is logically impossible. The emphasis on proof before belief, which is the most ludicrous statement I can imagine. I keep saying that... no one challenges it, and then you make childish jibes like this.
 It's proven to be par for the course.
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