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RE: Got gas?
April 3, 2020 at 5:08 am
(April 3, 2020 at 3:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Prior to electrification, private residences were heated by inefficient and comparatively dirtier means than a coal fired power plant. We saw gains in heat and in energy efficiency, without needing to switch out the fuel.
The DoE estimates that increased electrification will necessitate a 38% increase in production over the next 30 years, mostly from EVs. That's nationally, some states have it better or worse than others. The big issue with electric cars isn't whether or not we can make the energy or whether or not it would be cleaner - we can and it would be...but how to distribute it, how to manage the new peaks. Some states are running charging stations for the express purpose of collecting the data that would be required to plan for that.
(iirc, there are a few states that already make more electricity than the projected requirements, a consequence of seeing power generation grow while consumer demand remained flat for the last decade or so - so they do that, burn enough coal to produce the energy..... and people are driving around.)
We burnt a lot of peat when I was a kid. Even dirtier than coal, but it smelled amazing.
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RE: Got gas?
April 3, 2020 at 5:13 am
(April 3, 2020 at 5:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 3, 2020 at 3:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Prior to electrification, private residences were heated by inefficient and comparatively dirtier means than a coal fired power plant. We saw gains in heat and in energy efficiency, without needing to switch out the fuel.
The DoE estimates that increased electrification will necessitate a 38% increase in production over the next 30 years, mostly from EVs. That's nationally, some states have it better or worse than others. The big issue with electric cars isn't whether or not we can make the energy or whether or not it would be cleaner - we can and it would be...but how to distribute it, how to manage the new peaks. Some states are running charging stations for the express purpose of collecting the data that would be required to plan for that.
(iirc, there are a few states that already make more electricity than the projected requirements, a consequence of seeing power generation grow while consumer demand remained flat for the last decade or so - so they do that, burn enough coal to produce the energy..... and people are driving around.)
We burnt a lot of peat when I was a kid. Even dirtier than coal, but it smelled amazing.
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Like Bruichladdich? 
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RE: Got gas?
April 3, 2020 at 5:42 am
(April 3, 2020 at 5:13 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (April 3, 2020 at 5:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We burnt a lot of peat when I was a kid. Even dirtier than coal, but it smelled amazing.
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Like Bruichladdich?
Possibly (I was never a Scotch drinker). In my memory, it's more associated with barmbrack.
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RE: Got gas?
April 3, 2020 at 5:54 am
(April 3, 2020 at 5:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 3, 2020 at 5:13 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Like Bruichladdich?
Possibly (I was never a Scotch drinker). In my memory, it's more associated with barmbrack.
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Bruichladdich is strongly peaty. Don't care for it myself, but I wasn't going to chuck a bottle that cost $165. I soldiered on.
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RE: Got gas?
April 12, 2020 at 12:55 pm
Just ran out to the pharmacy (which isn't open yet though it was well past the time listed on the website - 'cause Easter, I suppose) and see that gas prices here are around $1.25 per gallon. Since we can't go anywhere gas is real cheap.
It'll be interesting to watch the prices climb once we are able to move around freely again.
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RE: Got gas?
April 12, 2020 at 12:59 pm
(April 12, 2020 at 12:55 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Just ran out to the pharmacy (which isn't open yet though it was well past the time listed on the website - 'cause Easter, I suppose) and see that gas prices here are around $1.25 per gallon. Since we can't go anywhere gas is real cheap.
It'll be interesting to watch the prices climb once we are able to move around freely again.
That's not eve a guess. 
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April 12, 2020 at 1:45 pm
(April 12, 2020 at 12:55 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Just ran out to the pharmacy (which isn't open yet though it was well past the time listed on the website - 'cause Easter, I suppose) and see that gas prices here are around $1.25 per gallon. Since we can't go anywhere gas is real cheap.
It'll be interesting to watch the prices climb once we are able to move around freely again. It'll rise faster than a 13 year old boy in the girl's locker room......
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April 27, 2020 at 10:41 pm
It's down to $1.22 here.....
I wonder if it'll make it under a buck?
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RE: Got gas?
April 28, 2020 at 5:43 am
1974 I ran across a gas war just south of the Oklahoma state line. Gas was $0.179/gal. Those were the good old days.
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RE: Got gas?
April 28, 2020 at 6:30 am
(April 28, 2020 at 5:43 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: 1974 I ran across a gas war just south of the Oklahoma state line. Gas was $0.179/gal. Those were the good old days.
What does that come to in today's money?
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