[split] The Lord is God thread

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I would like for all you people that call yourself an atheist to get out a piece of paper and a #2 pencil.

And I would like you to get your head out of your ass. Sadly, it looks as if neither of us will get his wish.

You've one another internet, a blue one.


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[Minimalist]

I can't afford all these honors.


Maybe I'll get an email from some Nigerian lawyer offering to split a big inheritance with me?

[reverendjeremiah]

I think mods this needs to go to 'The Gauntlett"

GAUNTLET GAUNTLET GAUNTLET!!!

[Captain Scarlet]

No one has done the home work. No one has tried to draw an animal that cannot be conceived by any known parameters and then talk about it. No one will admit that they cannot do it either. I know that I cannot talk about, describe, or draw an animal that God has never made with parts, color, and form that have never been conceived. I dare you all to prove me wrong. I dare you to admit that you cannot talk about or describe something that has never been conceived by any known parts, color, or form.

The irony is that this ridiculous anaolgy not only fails badly, but when applied to your beliefs shows them to be ridiculous. If no-one believed in a god there would be nothing to debate and forums such as this would not exist. You believe there is a god, therefore there is something to debate, becuase I believe you are wrong; just as people can debate the existence or non existence of alien civilisations. As it happens xtian philosphers beleive this god to have no known form, colour, parts etc ie divine simplicity. Why don't you do YOUR home work first and conceive of such a being, then ask yourself if there is anything to believe in, before telling us we are wrong for debating beliefs.

Xtians such as you go around harping on about atheists, saying that "if you don't believe you should keep it to yourselves". Most of us probably would if wasn't for the fact the xtians / muslims or whoever going around proslyetising their faith, seemingly unable to be happy until we all believe it too; ramming beliefs down others throats, including vulnerable people like your own kids. So if you want to believe in invisible sky fairies with beards, then fine; just don't think people won't talk about you or disagree with you!

[Jaysyn]

Oh dear, yet another one.

(1)Take the trouble to find out what the word 'atheism" actually means.Your post indicates you have no idea.

(2) Look up "burden of proof". You have it,we do not. It is you who have the obligation to explain,justify and prove your position. We need explain,justify, prove exactly nothing; we make no claims. You're the one doing that.

(3)Once you've grasped both concepts, either provide some evidence to support whatever collection of superstitions you favour, or stop wasting my time and bugger off, there's a good chap.

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
"Galatians 6:7" God does not have to prove Himself. It is for man to believe. And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Acts 16:31 Your unbelief will cost you some day.

But wait, you just said you were talking about God, not religion. Obviously, you can't make an argument for one without calling on the other, can you?

Atheists - 100 / Bible-thumper - 0

[reverendjeremiah]

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
"Galatians 6:7" God does not have to prove Himself. It is for man to believe. And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Acts 16:31 Your unbelief will cost you some day.

But wait, you just said you were talking about God, not religion. Obviously, you can't make an argument for one without calling on the other, can you?

Atheists - 100 / Bible-thumper - 0

So he basically pulls the "Some ancient believer in my religion said you have no choice but to believe in his god, and I agree with him..and you therefore have no choice"

Hey man, there are ancient atheists who said god was nothing but fiction back then too..I can use the same method of argument; Argument from authority.

Logic - 1 / Falacy - 0

[Welsh cake]

So ends the debate.

You have to start a fragging debate before you can finish it!

Your 'mental exercise' was thrown out because it was completely asinine.

Next time, actually try to present a positive ontological argument for the existence of your god concept.

[Dotard]

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[Edwardo Piet]

The idea of God cannot be argued if God does not exist.

Ahhhhh yummy. My favourite fallacy: Equivocation.

The concept of "God" and God are two entirely different things. The Easter Bunny doesn't exist, but the concept of "the Easter Bunny" does. God doesn't exist, but the concept of "God" does. So to say that "the idea of God" cannot be argued if God doesn't exist, is just utter nonsense.