One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many

[LadyForCamus]

Are you really that stupid, guys ?

Muhammad was talking to people who lived fourteen centuries ago, they had no idea what "governments and corporations" would mean, had Muhammad used these terms. Muhammad's contemporaries know what herding and goats mean, they didn't know much about corporations and embassies. So the expression "barefoot destitute goat herds" merely refers to the geographical area where his prediction is supposed to happen, because, obviously, nobody builds things while barefoot.

It's really stupid to try and interpret the words "barefoot" and "destitute" literally, even more so when thay are attempts of translation from their more expressive equivalents in Arabic.

“How dare people interpret the book using the words that are in the book! Obviously it means something other than what it obviously means, or else it’d be wrong!”

[Brian37]

"Plague" in the Abrahamic mythologies meant "punishment for bad behavior." None of the language in antiquity demonstrated knowledge of DNA/RNA or evolutionary biology.

[The Architect Of Fate]

"Plague" in the Abrahamic mythologies meant "punishment for bad behavior."  None of the language in antiquity demonstrated knowledge of DNA/RNA or evolutionary biology.

And even more as not all Plagues in the bible are even Diseases. But again definition of convenience i suppose

[arewethereyet]

Are you really that stupid, guys ?

Muhammad was talking to people who lived fourteen centuries ago, they had no idea what "governments and corporations" would mean, had Muhammad used these terms. Muhammad's contemporaries know what herding and goats mean, they didn't know much about corporations and embassies. So the expression "barefoot destitute goat herds" merely refers to the geographical area where his prediction is supposed to happen, because, obviously, nobody builds things while barefoot.

It's really stupid to try and interpret the words "barefoot" and "destitute" literally, even more so when thay are attempts of translation from their more expressive equivalents in Arabic.

“How dare people interpret the book using the words that are in the book! Obviously it means something other than what it obviously means, or else it’d be wrong!”

Don't wait for a response.

Klorophorm doesn't interact with the wimminz.

[Brian37]

"Plague" in the Abrahamic mythologies meant "punishment for bad behavior."  None of the language in antiquity demonstrated knowledge of DNA/RNA or evolutionary biology.

And even more as not all Plagues in the bible are even Diseases. But again definition of convenience i suppose

Right. 

Swarms of insects are natural, wind picking objects and even animals depending on wind speed and weight of the species, also natural, just like viruses and bacteria are natural. 

Theists wrongfully think when skeptics and or scientists call anything "natural" we mean good. In skeptic/science language we merely mean it is observable. Eartquakes, volcanos and black holes are all nasty things nobody wants affecting them, but there are very natural observations.

[The Architect Of Fate]

And even more as not all Plagues in the bible are even Diseases. But again definition of convenience i suppose

Right. 

Swarms of insects are natural, wind picking objects and even animals depending on wind speed and weight of the species, also natural, just like viruses and bacteria are natural. 

Theists wrongfully think when skeptics and or scientists call anything "natural" we mean good. In skeptic/science language we merely mean it is observable. Eartquakes, volcanos and black holes are all nasty things nobody wants affecting them, but there are very natural observations.

Turning the sky dark , Rivers of blood , Fuck raining frogs,Hail and Thunderstorms , Lice , none of these are Diseases . Let alone the Black Death . And even after Samuel gods still doing stuff like this .

And if Mo really wanted to impress he could have listed the symptoms and pointed out any number of the specific places the black death had already ravaged

[Brian37]

Right. 

Swarms of insects are natural, wind picking objects and even animals depending on wind speed and weight of the species, also natural, just like viruses and bacteria are natural. 

Theists wrongfully think when skeptics and or scientists call anything "natural" we mean good. In skeptic/science language we merely mean it is observable. Eartquakes, volcanos and black holes are all nasty things nobody wants affecting them, but there are very natural observations.

Turning the sky dark , Rivers of blood , Fuck raining frogs,Hail and Thunderstorms , Lice , none of these are Diseases . Let alone the Black Death . And even after Samuel gods still doing stuff like this .

"Rivers of blood" again, was language used to threaten punishment for not blindly obeying the claimed god.

I am certainly sure both war and natural disasters both produced dead animals and dead humans bleeding. Again, no magic needed to explain anything.

The sky turning dark, that too, imagine a thunderstorm blocking out the sun. 

The other point about human ignorance in all of antiquity is that most humans were not world travelers, so anything bad that happened to them locally, humans saw that local location as the entirety of the world. Nobody knew back then how big the planet was or that it was a ball and not flat.

So if you saw a local flood, it is reasonable back then to confuse that natural local disaster as being global. And disaster mythology wasn't new to the religions of Abraham. The Epic of Gilgamesh is far older mythology that has him on a boat trying to save his family and livestock during a flood.

But yet, you don't find these same characters in plagues, pandemis or floods in say China. They have their own mythologies but not the same characters.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Are you really that stupid, guys ?

Muhammad was talking to people who lived fourteen centuries ago, they had no idea what "governments and corporations" would mean, had Muhammad used these terms. Muhammad's contemporaries know what herding and goats mean, they didn't know much about corporations and embassies. So the expression "barefoot destitute goat herds" merely refers to the geographical area where his prediction is supposed to happen, because, obviously, nobody builds things while barefoot.

It's really stupid to try and interpret the words "barefoot" and "destitute" literally, even more so when thay are attempts of translation from their more expressive equivalents in Arabic.

“How dare people interpret the book using the words that are in the book! Obviously it means something other than what it obviously means, or else it’d be wrong!”

Because could not have simply described corporations as groups of wealthy merchants (which they are ) and Embases as foreigners or foreign traders which more accurate and oil (which most of the wealth is based on ) Was known and used since ancient times .And nothing about theses descriptions are geographical exclusive as say actually naming something specefic in that general region

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Calm down, pal. Muhammad said the plague doesn't happen in Medina, and guess what ? It really doesn't happen. The end. Credits to Muhammad, shame on atheists.

A Plague has happened in Medina according to a alid definition of the word . Shame on Apologists 

I didn't claim Muhammad had some "modern understanding", he knew no more than any other man in his time, and the content of what's purpotedly revealed to him, which deals mostly with theology and social issues. And the few things - quite a lot actually if we take both the qur'an and the hadiths into account - were free from error, and some of them are quite impressive, such as the ones cited in this thread.

None of them are impressive 

And one more thing, there is no "mixing science with religion" involved, Muhammad predicted that certain events won't happen, like the plague entering Medina, this is not really science.

Which according to a totally valid definition of the word Plague was wrong

[R00tKiT]

Once again. YOU do not get to retrofit definitions or science and reach back in time and claim anyone in antiquity had any modern understanding. It doesn't work when you do it, or when a Christian does it, or when a Jew does it, or when a Hindu or Buddhist do it. AND TRUST ME, I've been online debating religion for almost 20 years and have debated the fallacy of mixing science and religion with every major religion's followers and they all pull this bad logic.

Calm down, pal. Muhammad said the plague doesn't happen in Medina, and guess what ? It really doesn't happen. The end. Credits to Muhammad, shame on atheists.

I didn't claim Muhammad had some "modern understanding", he knew no more than any other man in his time, and the content of what's purpotedly revealed to him, which deals mostly with theology and social issues. And the few things that somewhat deal with science and the understanding of the world- quite a lot actually if we take both the qur'an and the hadiths into account - were free from error, and some of them are quite impressive, such as the ones cited in this thread.

And one more thing, there is no "mixing science with religion" involved, Muhammad predicted that certain events won't happen, like the plague entering Medina, this is not really science.

NOBODY IN THE WORLD back then had any clue as to what DNA/RNA are. NOBODY back then anywhere in the world of any religion  had any clue.

So what..? This doesn't explain away these prophecies. Why would someone who knows he's lying pinpoint one city and predict the plague doesn't enter it? Why would he even think of telling this ?

[R00tKiT]

Don't wait for a response.

Klorophorm doesn't interact with the wimminz.

Why wouldn't I ? They just tend not to say anything relevant.... just like men, no misogyny intended.