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One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
#31
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Quote:Really? The first skyscraper was built around 1885. Mentioning high rise buildings circa 600 AD is quite impressive, when you think about it.
Skyscraper could mean anything and not all versions say skyscraper . So no not impressive at all nor are high rises mentioned .It simply says tall building which has existed forever depending on your definition of tall . Your so desprate to have this be true you have switched your brain off .
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#32
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 15, 2020 at 8:27 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: No, it's just bullshitters sitting around camel dung campfires and trying to out lie one another. You really are embarrassing yourself here.

I am still looking for a lie Muhammad told his companions around campfire.. can you point out one or two for me ?

(May 15, 2020 at 8:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But NONE of those buildings were constructed by barefoot, naked, destitute shepherds of either goats or camels. They were built by masons, plumbers, steel workers, electricians, glaziers, and so on and such like. There is nothing about the prophecy that is ‘clear and precise’.

You think the prophecy is true because you WANT it to be true.

Boru

I think I already explained to you what the whole "barefoot naked" stuff actually means. It refers to somewhere, not to people who actually built these skyscrapers. That's because, as I said, nobody builds things while barefoot and naked, these words just refer to a group of people wearing few to no clothes.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#33
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
The Tower of Babel was the "first" skyscraper. People of the Book should know this.
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#34
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Quote:I am still looking for a lie Muhammad told his companions around campfire.. can you point out one or two for me ?
So you can perform the mental gymnastics needed to deny it ?

Quote:I think I already explained to you what the whole "barefoot naked" stuff actually means. It refers to somewhere, not to people who actually built these skyscrapers. That's because, as I said, nobody builds things while barefoot and naked, these words just refers to a group people wearing few to no clothes.
That could be freaking anywhere warm

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Few clothes?
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”

[Image: flag-ukraine_1f1fa-1f1e6.png]  Heart [Image: canada-google.png]        

 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#35
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 15, 2020 at 8:31 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:Really? The first skyscraper was built around 1885. Mentioning high rise buildings circa 600 AD is quite impressive, when you think about it.
Skyscraper could mean anything and not all versions say skyscraper . So no not impressive at all nor are high rises  mentioned .It simply says tall building which has existed forever depending on your definition of tall . Your so desprate to have this be true you have switched your brain off .

The hadith also refers to a specific group of people competing by building these. Of course you will find some ways out make these words look vague, just remind yourself that you are reading translations.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#36
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
I would guess that people who only had one story buildings or cave dwellings would be impressed when the first two-story structure was built.

Tall building means something very different now than it did a couple thousand years ago and before.
 “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~Albert Einstein                                                 
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#37
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
Quote:The hadith also refers to a specific group of people competing by building these. 

No it freaking doesn't 


Quote:Of course you will find some ways out make these words look vague,
Because they are vague ALL prophecies ae vague 


Quote: just remind yourself that you are reading translations.
Which only weakens your case your prophet is a poor one

Quote:The hadith also refers to a specific group of people competing by building these. 

No it freaking doesn't 


Quote:Of course you will find some ways out make these words look vague,
Because they are vague ALL prophecies ae vague 


Quote: just remind yourself that you are reading translations.
Which only weakens your case your prophet is a poor one

All you have done is give us some vague prediction

That people will tall shit .Tall being relative to perspective of ancient dessert warlord .
That people in warm climates will build tall shit
And there will bee camels which existed everywhere in the ancient world and across the world now
Not impressive
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”

[Image: flag-ukraine_1f1fa-1f1e6.png]  Heart [Image: canada-google.png]        

 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#38
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 15, 2020 at 8:40 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I would guess that people who only had one story buildings or cave dwellings would be impressed when the first two-story structure was built.

Tall building means something very different now than it did a couple thousand years ago and before.
Not really. This is from the 21st BCE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat_of_Ur

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#39
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 15, 2020 at 8:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Tower of Babel was the "first" skyscraper. People of the Book should know this.

The tower of Babel is referred to in the book of Genesis, not in the Qur'an or anywhere in Islamic literature. Who is embarassing himself in an islam topic now? 

I am still waiting for the lies you think Muhammad told his companions around campfire.

(May 15, 2020 at 8:36 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: [Image: 883f67c8320d30fb7424765abbfa0a52.jpg]

Few clothes?

Oh please.. boy. Don't you think their clothes would've been a bit different fourteen centuries ago..?  Because their clothes back then are what matters, Muhammad's companions, again, wouldn't have a clue of what he's talking about if he described to them the picture above.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#40
RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
(May 15, 2020 at 8:42 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 15, 2020 at 8:40 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I would guess that people who only had one story buildings or cave dwellings would be impressed when the first two-story structure was built.

Tall building means something very different now than it did a couple thousand years ago and before.
Not really. This is from the 21st BCE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat_of_Ur

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I doubt your run-of-the-mill goat herder saw something like this on a daily basis...may not even in their lifetime.
 “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~Albert Einstein                                                 
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