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[WinterHold]

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

[WinterHold]

It’s very unlikely that you’d be able to hurt me in any case.

Not ignoring signs doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not an elk. You could be an elk and be unaware of it.

Boru

And you can be a camel with bone weakness.
In other words; you might be unworthy

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It’s very unlikely that you’d be able to hurt me in any case.

Not ignoring signs doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not an elk. You could be an elk and be unaware of it.

Boru

And you can be a camel with bone weakness.
In other words; you might be unworthy

I’ve told you once already - camels are mythological creatures. They don’t exist.

Boru

[WinterHold]

And let's face it..punishment is a healer to victims; a point you -and so many- never answered yet.

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And you can be a camel with bone weakness.
In other words; you might be unworthy

I’ve told you once already - camels are mythological creatures. They don’t exist.

Boru

So as Elks..

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And let's face it..punishment is a healer to victims; a point you -and so many- never answered yet.

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I’ve told you once already - camels are mythological creatures. They don’t exist.

Boru

So as Elks..

Ok, now you’re just being silly. Silly, silly, silly.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

If punishment can heal victims, then why should we add cruelty?

[WinterHold]

And let's face it..punishment is a healer to victims; a point you -and so many- never answered yet.

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So as Elks..

Ok, now you’re just being silly. Silly, silly, silly.

Boru

I didn't hear about grudge and feelings to take what the robber took. It is only long years in jail when bankers are involved !

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If punishment can heal victims, then why should we add cruelty?

Because for most people, cruelty is the only way to pay them back a healer for the trauma the crime caused.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Ok, now you’re just being silly. Silly, silly, silly.

Boru

I didn't hear about grudge and feelings to take what the robber took. It is only long years in jail when bankers are involved !

If I understand what you're getting at (and there's no guarantee that I do), no one here is saying that thievery shouldn't be punished. 

But do you really believe that kid who swipes a magazine from a news kiosk deserves the same level of punishment as does the perpetrator of a Ponzi scheme that bilks millions of people out of billions of dollars?

Because for most people, cruelty is the only way to pay them back a healer for the trauma the crime caused.

Wrong. Most people want justice, not cruelty. 'He who steals my purse steals trash.'

Boru

[WinterHold]

I didn't hear about grudge and feelings to take what the robber took. It is only long years in jail when bankers are involved !

If I understand what you're getting at (and there's no guarantee that I do), no one here is saying that thievery shouldn't be punished. 

But do you really believe that kid who swipes a magazine from a news kiosk deserves the same level of punishment as does the perpetrator of a Ponzi scheme that bilks millions of people out of billions of dollars?

Boru

In this comment in page 2 I did mention that kids should be excepted from the rule because they didn't satisfy the mental capability to grasp the consequence of their action:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-61009-p...pid1976065

WinterHold said:

To approve a punishment, the condemned needs to satisfy the age and the mental capability to realize their crime.

A child is not mentally capable of realizing the consequence of their actions.