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Islam
#31
RE: Islam
(May 19, 2020 at 5:19 am)Deesse23 Wrote: What a sick puppy. What a dangerous individual to any modern society.

I hope he will be rejected at the border of my country if he ever applies for immigration/asylum. We dont need people who want to kill others because someone "feels sad". We also dont need people who want to take away others´ right to (sexual) self determination.

This language is quite old, especially when the thugs in your society got exposed due to social media and media in general.

The right wing that keeps spitting racist nonsense like that you spitted above fills your society. Sometimes wackos pull out killing sprees like the one we heard about in NZ. So, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..If there is an interest I can provide for your society, neither you nor Hitler will stop me from coming.

So again, shhhhhhhh, and let the wise ones decide;Troll.

(May 19, 2020 at 8:02 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The consequence of sex is fun, Winter, lol.  If you're taking out a contract on sex..you're a john, not a husband.

Anywho, everywhere in the west needs immigrants.  This little foray into right wing ethnocentrism won't be permanent, and even if it were, wouldn't be able to change that reality.  Have you applied for any visas?  Do you have any marketable skills or education?

Most countries reject me already because I have Multiple Sclerosis.
As it seems the medication is quite expensive, so without a medical waiver my application is doomed. I can't find somebody who would give me the waiver; though.

It's tough.
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#32
RE: Islam
Calling someone a bot or troll when you have been exposed. I'm not surprised.

You are a stick puppy, and an awful person all around, who has nothing but personal insults when your horrible personal views are being exposed. You are very dangerous and belong exactly where you are,
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#33
RE: Islam
(May 20, 2020 at 12:44 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Calling someone a bot  or troll when you have been exposed. I'm not surprised.

You are a stick puppy, and an awful person all around, who has nothing but personal insults when your horrible personal views are being exposed. You are very dangerous and belong exactly where you are,

Without immigrants, your country would be no more. We all know it except for rightist wackos. With extremist bots like you, it will be the perfect garden for another Hitler. So listen to my advice: shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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#34
RE: Islam
Keep up exposing your vile and evil character.

Chopping off others hands, regulating people's sex life try, to defend your barbaric positions for a change. Oh wait, they are indefensible like most of your positions. That's why you fall back to personal attacks.

Keep showing your character, I'm sure we will enjoy your exhibitionism
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#35
RE: Islam
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shhhhhhhhh

Hitler..I mean Adolf
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#36
RE: Islam
Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#37
RE: Islam
(May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.

What you fail to understand is that cutting hands for thievery is better than throwing the convicted in a concrete cell for 15 or 20 years straight. Prison is a barbaric sentence in its own account; and worthy of Middle Ages and devastating to one's psychological state.

(May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.

You speak about severed hand being "irrepressible"; but so as "severed years from one's age".
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#38
RE: Islam
(May 20, 2020 at 5:40 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.

What you fail to understand is that cutting hands for thievery is better than throwing the convicted in a concrete cell for 15 or 20 years straight. Prison is a barbaric sentence in its own account; and worthy of Middle Ages and devastating to one's psychological state.

(May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.

You speak about severed hand being "irrepressible"; but so as "severed years from one's age".

First off, no one is sent to prison for 15-20 years for lifting a box of pencils or a stick of gum (not in civilized countries, at least). Different degrees of theft merit different penalties. Yet you clearly said earlier that the level of the theft doesn't matter - you would cut off a hand over a stick of gum (bar forgiveness, which is beside the point).

Mister Agenda brought up wrongful conviction earlier, and you haven't addressed it.  I'd like you to do so now.

Suppose Joe is accused of stealing a packet of sticky notes from his office.  He is fired and the company decides to prosecute.  Joe is convicted and has to pay a small fine (and look for another job). Later, it is discovered that Joe didn't steal the stickies after all.  He is reinstated in his job and his fine is remitted to him.

How would your system replace his hand?

Boru
Ignorance is never valid grounds for the rejection of established facts.
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#39
RE: Islam
(May 20, 2020 at 5:40 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.

What you fail to understand is that cutting hands for thievery is better than throwing the convicted in a concrete cell for 15 or 20 years straight.
Good thing that noone wants to throw people in jail for 15-20y for theft, but you and your likes maybe.*
What YOU fail to grasp is that mutilating (permantently!) someone for some crime like theft is worse than taking away their freedom temporarily. If you fail to see the difference between locking someone up for 5y and cutting off his hand and crippling him/her for ever, if you fail to grasp the very principles of proportionality in social interaction within a CIVILIZED society then im not gonna waste my time trying to explain those basics to an ignorant fanatic like you.

*its 5y max where i live


(May 20, 2020 at 5:40 am)WinterHold Wrote: Prison is a barbaric sentence ...
Yep, and chopping hands off is not.  Hilarious  Hehe
 
Have you ever tried to google the term "civilized"?


(May 20, 2020 at 5:40 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(May 20, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Keep it coming. As long as you are posting BS here, you can't chop off other people's hands. By all means, stay inside, let your hate flow, but don't hurt other people. It's safer for everyone if you stay inside.

You speak about severed hand being "irrepressible"; but so as "severed years from one's age".
Wtf are you rambling about (again)? Irrepressible? Is this yet anoter attempt of yours to #1 straw man me (again) and then #2 equivocate?
You may want to try that in english again
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#40
RE: Islam
(May 20, 2020 at 5:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 20, 2020 at 5:40 am)WinterHold Wrote: What you fail to understand is that cutting hands for thievery is better than throwing the convicted in a concrete cell for 15 or 20 years straight. Prison is a barbaric sentence in its own account; and worthy of Middle Ages and devastating to one's psychological state.


You speak about severed hand being "irrepressible"; but so as "severed years from one's age".

First off, no one is sent to prison for 15-20 years for lifting a box of pencils or a stick of gum (not in civilized countries, at least). Different degrees of theft merit different penalties. Yet you clearly said earlier that the level of the theft doesn't matter - you would cut off a hand over a stick of gum (bar forgiveness, which is beside the point).

Actually you are wrong according to American law:

https://www.federalcharges.com/bank-robb...s-charges/



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  • Any person who enters a building used in whole or in part as a bank with the intent to forcibly remove funds or commit any felony that will affect the institution could face a serious fine and up to 20 years in prison. This includes simply walking into a bank and handing a note to a teller.
  • In instances where a robbery places another person’s life in jeopardy or involves assault, a more serious fine and up to 25 years in prison are possible. This includes making threats, using any weapon during a robbery, and even using toy weapons during a robbery.
  • Those who receive, conceal, or otherwise accept anything taken from a bank could face a fine and as much as 10 years in prison.
  • Robberies that involve a perpetrator killing another person or abducting them could face even more serious penalties, including life imprisonment or even the death penalty.

So yes; the law of America does send people to 20 years or even life behind bars for robbery.
As for cutting the hand of the grown up thieve, then they should not steal or rob in the first place. Just like the American law might throw a man for years and years in a concrete box over walking into a building.

In America and the west; forgiveness from the victim is not even on the list as a waiver for the convict.
Ask me about how one restores their missing hand; and I'll tell you about how one restores their psychological sanity after being raped and thrown in a box with dangerous criminals.

Quote:Mister Agenda brought up wrongful conviction earlier, and you haven't addressed it.  I'd like you to do so now.

Suppose Joe is accused of stealing a packet of sticky notes from his office.  He is fired and the company decides to prosecute.  Joe is convicted and has to pay a small fine (and look for another job). Later, it is discovered that Joe didn't steal the stickies after all.  He is reinstated in his job and his fine is remitted to him.

How would your system replace his hand?

Boru

My system would require top-notch investigation; then. But the missing hand? again; I'll ask you about the raped convicts locked in concrete boxes.
Robbery is not to be tolerated under Islam. But so as wrong sentences and playing with peoples' blood. Investigation should be the best of qualities in the whole world, and forgiveness must be always recited to the victim.
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