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Hello athesist planet. Just lost my faith. Now What?
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RE: Hello athesist planet. Just lost my faith. Now What?
May 19, 2020 at 4:10 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2020 at 4:11 pm by Little lunch.)
Welcome.
I was religious and the hardest part for me about leaving the faith was believing that hell wasn't real. So even though I knew in my heart that it was all bullshit, I still feared hell for many years. That is the amazing power of brainwashing. (May 19, 2020 at 4:08 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: OP, you have to be you. Everything else is optional. I always knew it as 'everyone else is taken', but yours works even better I think. RE: Hello athesist planet. Just lost my faith. Now What?
May 19, 2020 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2020 at 4:31 pm by The Valkyrie.)
Welcome.
Always happy to meet someone who has navigated their way out of religion. I understand there are online communities of people who still live in very conservative, religious countries but keep their lack of belief secret (for various reasons). I also know there are organizations you can reach out to for ex Muslims who will give you advice and are completely anonymous. The only thing I ask, considering your location, is that you be very careful. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" RE: Hello athesist planet. Just lost my faith. Now What?
May 19, 2020 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2020 at 4:39 pm by Suz.)
(May 19, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Congrats and welcome. I look forward to seeing your input on some of islam propaganda Klorophyll and winterhold like to spam. Thank you for replying Actually, my knowledge of Islam an Islamism (the ideology of Islam) is pretty good. I've spent my whole life trying to understand it and make something out of it. Clearly I failed. Hit me any time with any question you have in mind. I'll do my best. (May 19, 2020 at 3:45 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Welcome aboard. I suspect that you'll approach morality and live your life the same way that you always have. What will you have to rethink, specifically? When I think about morality I tend to focus on sins (what is moraly wrnog). I don't focus on good deads because the motive to do good is always there no matter what kind of a person you are. You either do good deads to feel good or to make people like you. Both are positives as far as I'm concerned. Back to the moraly wrong (sins) and I think about both personal and social sins Personal sins: What is it that you would never allow yourself to do even if no one is looking? and if you do it you will feel guilty and you will promise yourself not to do it again? Social sins: What is it that you would try not to do if someone is looking and even if you do it when no one is looking, you'd prefer that everyone should be stopped by society from doing it? My question: if we didn't cheat one or two things from religion, how would we decide what's wrong?
You're getting it backwards. Religion co-opted morality, religion didn't CREATE morality. Chimps and bonobos learn to act morally toward each other.
Ethics are the things that allow us to live with other people. Morals are the things that allow us to live with ourselves.
As a fellow person that lost his faith, Eastern Orthodoxy to be precise, not saying Christianity because this particular cult is a beast of its own, I'm trying to approach morality with the rule of thumb - inflict as little suffering as possible.
In regard to the so called personal sins you can start thinking if they are really imoral things that one does or just actions that someone avoids just because he wants to comply to a certain ideology. (May 19, 2020 at 2:08 pm)Brian37 Wrote:Life of Brain.(May 19, 2020 at 1:49 pm)Suz Wrote: Hello Forum:
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
(May 19, 2020 at 4:24 pm)Suz Wrote:(May 19, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Congrats and welcome. I look forward to seeing your input on some of islam propaganda Klorophyll and winterhold like to spam. I'd say (not counting the infallible teaching of FSM obviously) a correct and honest reading of any religious book will lead you to throw in the trash.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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