Health advocates do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission

[Agnostico]

Irresponsible





Reckless





Disrespectful



Hateful

[The Architect Of Fate]

So repeating the stupidity over again . As if doing so makes it any less stupid . I now return you to your mental breakdown .

[Rev. Rye]

That's right your not. You don't even know what they are protesting about exactly over here... 
I would suggest actually listening to an indigenous Australian instead of trying to invent arguments that don't exist, just to fit your ideology

But who am I kidding, your definition of institutional racism is so exclusive that anything short of full-blown genocide happening right now doesn’t count and that everything else is just a matter of:

[Agnostico]

But who am I kidding, your definition of institutional racism is so exclusive that anything short of full-blown genocide happening right now doesn’t count and that everything else is just a matter of:

It wasn't my definition, i got it from somewhere. Im happy to use your definition and have already shown that Aboriginals get more resources than everyone else.
More health benefits, more education benefits, lower tax bracket, more unemployment benefits... You have shown me nothing to support your wild claim of systemic racism here

The ABC, the most radical left wing channel in Australia...  Here is the difference between us. I watch left wing channels and listen to their views.
U guys feel that you are so morally superior that u dismiss right wing channels all together just cos they disagree with your narrative.

So the first thing is that this woman is not an Aboriginal or Australian, she doesn't have a clue about our affairs.
Secondly if u listen to her she doesn't say how Aboriginals are being oppressed she is in fact asking for extra privileges, even the interviewer asks why should they get extra
Thirdly this person is wanted in her home country of the Philippines for terrorism. She is a criminal fugitive that is on the run.


Here are two short interviews with Aboriginals about the protests.  Im not expecting u to watch them. 
As u said, conservatives have no sense what is right or wrong, only liberals do... A very profound statement that reveals all that i need to know i think...

Ur an American, u have no idea about race in Australia. Yet your sense of self righteousness must be massive. 
Trying to insert your narrative that no one else is talking about here, without even mentioning any of the issues being discussed. 

Clue, the national issues are discussed in one of the videos that u won't watch cos your just too good

[Rev. Rye]

Okay, more aboriginal perspectives on systemic racism in Australia:













The three people in the first two videos are Gamilaraay, and Crystal McKinnon In the third is Yamatji. And they all agree that systemic racism is a problem in Australia.

Sounds like Jacinta Price’s claims aren’t necessarily representative of the larger community. And the second video, Ken Wyatt doesn’t seem to really dispute that systemic racism is a problem, and indeed he points out there are indeed quite a few parallels between issues in American and Australia (even if he does think protesting now is a bad idea, what with the COVID pandemic you’ve only just now decided to care about. To be fair, that is a legit point.)

Also, show me where I said that only liberals know the difference between right and wrong.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Okay, more aboriginal perspectives on systemic racism in Australia:













Sounds like Jacinta Price’s claims aren’t necessarily representative of the larger community. And the second video, Ken Wyatt doesn’t seem to really dispute that systemic racism is a problem, and indeed he points out there are indeed quite a few parallels between issues in American and Australia (even if he does think protesting now is a bad idea, what with the COVID pandemic you’ve only just now decided to care about.)

Also, show me where I said that only liberals know the difference between right and wrong.

No were he just likes inventing positions for his opponents . Because is way easier then having to attack the actual position they hold

[Agnostico]

Okay, more aboriginal perspectives on systemic racism in Australia:

The three people in the first two videos are Gamilaraay, and Crystal McKinnon In the third is Yamatji. And they all agree that systemic racism is a problem in Australia.

Sounds like Jacinta Price’s claims aren’t necessarily representative of the larger community. And the second video, Ken Wyatt doesn’t seem to really dispute that systemic racism is a problem, and indeed he points out there are indeed quite a few parallels between issues in American and Australia 

Check your videos cos they don't match you names. U can find anything on the internet, doesn't mean its true. But believe what u like. I live here and know the truth

even if he does think protesting now is a bad idea, what with the COVID pandemic you’ve only just now decided to care about. To be fair, that is a legit point

And you now don't care about covid. I was always concerned about all lives. U guys were so focused on covid that u don't give a fuck about anyone else
All the suicides u guys were like whatever. People turning to drugs and alcohol, domestic violence, child abuse, unemployment, homelessness, etc, u guys are like whatever.

But after all that, u are now saying that the view that protests were a bad idea is a legit point... Fuckin hell thanks a lot... Thats what I was saying from the start... 
I don't like to generalize but atheists... Jeez

[Little lunch]

I don't believe any aboriginal I know would dispute Jacinta Price's claims.
I know it to be true myself.
I've met many victims and I even know more then one victim who went on to become the perpetrator.
Australia is a deeply racist country, mostly emanating from the citizens (who are also quite clueless to the fact that they are racists), but aboriginals are also their own worst enemies.
I'm saying that their fight is on two fronts.
Not an enviable position and certainly not privileged.
I've never met an aboriginal with a wallet full of cash, ever fucking ever.

Also, call an aboriginal 'abo' to their face...if you fucking love hospital food. :-)

[Rev. Rye]

Yeah, it's almost like sometimes, there's a lot of factors to consider, an idea I've never seen you take into account, because literally every post you've made on issues, the solution is invariably all or nothing, and one of these extremes must be the right one. Trying to find a balance that could have a better outcome than either extreme is never an option for you.

While the decision to do massive protests just as America is opening is very questionable, the protesters' anger is very easy to understand, especially after you see the video of George Floyd's neck being pushed to the ground, find out he was kept down for 8:46, learn he was kept down for a bit less than 3 minutes after he lost consciousness (and for possibly passing off a counterfeit $20 bill as real at a convenience store, no less!), and realise that shit like this happens most every day in America.

The reopening protesters were essentially trying to demand something that was going to happen anyway with or without their input, except on a quicker timescale that could potentially lead to a huge spike in COVID cases while they were still increasing. The police brutality problem? I highly doubt that that's going to go away on its own.

And on "all lives?" I'm going to call bullshit. There was never going to be a possible COVID pandemic scenario where everything turns out okay. Concern about All Lives is meaningless when talking about Black people being subjected to police brutality. In situations like this, it's laughably so. A pandemic of this scale is all but guaranteed to cause a lot of deaths and a lot of economic disarray. If you think it's possible to try and manage something of this magnitude without taking "acceptable losses" into account, you clearly have no idea what's going on. It fucking sucks, but that's how it is.

And frankly, protesting something important (read: demanding something now that isn't inevitably coming in a few months anyway), during a time when the curve is actually fairly flat, when most states are starting to reopen, and scientists have enough of a handle on how the disease works that they can give advice on how to protest safely? I can really understand why Ken Wyatt says it might be a bad idea to protest now, but that said, if it can be done safely, I'd say go for it. And, surprisingly, it looks like, whether or not a second wave is going to happen, it's probably not happening now. Probably.

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Funny thing, the fact that he seems to view everything like this is probably another point to add to the "Agnostico is more like an NPC than us" hypothesis, he sees a scenario and he only sees the options as:
0: Keep everybody under lockdown.
1: Keep everything open, even if it leads to a spike in cases that the medical facilities have to deal with.

The idea that the option that causes the least damage could be reviewing things on a case by case basis and that maybe the correct balance could be something like (to use a random 9-digit number I generated here) 0.538589898, let alone that at one point a few months ago, it could have been 0.102842757, and in a couple months, it might even be 0.859699987 appears to be entirely beyond his comprehension, which could also explain why he has never reacted to my pointing out that Australia's been slowly reopening over the past month. Which I have done multiple times in the past few weeks.

[The Architect Of Fate]

And you now don't care about covid. I was always concerned about all lives. U guys were so focused on covid that u don't give a fuck about anyone else
All the suicides u guys were like whatever. People turning to drugs and alcohol, domestic violence, child abuse, unemployment, homelessness, etc, u guys are like whatever.

No we freaking weren't so that's straight up lie 

But after all that, u are now saying that the view that protests were a bad idea is a legit point... Fuckin hell thanks a lot... Thats what I was saying from the start... 
I don't like to generalize but atheists... Jeez

Do you ever get tired of misrepresenting people?