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(June 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: If you’re asking why Native Americans don’t riot like Black people do, then that’s been asked and answered. In any other respect, I don’t think they do. oh, ok then can you provide a list of cities that have been burned? perhaps a list of targets or cvs. maybe a list of privately own businesses..
(June 10, 2020 at 2:52 pm)no one Wrote: Apparently, drick's avatar is more intelligent than the drickster itself.
how so?
I mean did you know native Americans were slaves to america 3 times longer and in 10 times the quantity? that rather than let them Go the Us moved to exterminate the whole race?
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June 10, 2020 at 5:38 pm
(June 10, 2020 at 5:36 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I take it you never learned about the Indian Wars in school.
With the ignorance of his posts and the crappy spelling I would question if he attended school at all. The evidence of having been educated is slim.
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He's asking for businesses Native Americans have burned during riots, and yet when I point out that the white man has spent something in the area of THREE CENTURIES at war (on and off, but still) and ended up being pretty conclusively defeated, their numbers dwindled, and many tribes completely wiped off the face of the earth, and yet somehow that doesn't explain why they don't riot like Black people are doing now.
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June 10, 2020 at 8:11 pm
(June 10, 2020 at 5:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: He's asking for businesses Native Americans have burned during riots, and yet when I point out that the white man has spent something in the area of THREE CENTURIES at war (on and off, but still) and ended up being pretty conclusively defeated, their numbers dwindled, and many tribes completely wiped off the face of the earth, and yet somehow that doesn't explain why they don't riot like Black people are doing now.
This is not a defense of Native Americans over Blacks.
Native American reservations(and I fucking hate that language) which amounts to forced segregation based on white historical power.
But, Natives even given that, have had far more representation of their own even in white forced segregation.
So when Native Americans identify with oppression but don't riot or loot, is a fucking bullshit argument. Both are prisons set up by the white man, but with Native segregation which which is what a "reservation" is, at least Natives get to run their own prisons.
It should not be an argument about how Native Americans or Blacks react to white BULLSHIT, but how whites accept we have been fucking dicks.
I have seen too many stories of minorities of any skin tone, trying to comply and get fucked, or rightfully fighting back and still get fucked.
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June 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm
(June 10, 2020 at 8:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 10, 2020 at 5:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: He's asking for businesses Native Americans have burned during riots, and yet when I point out that the white man has spent something in the area of THREE CENTURIES at war (on and off, but still) and ended up being pretty conclusively defeated, their numbers dwindled, and many tribes completely wiped off the face of the earth, and yet somehow that doesn't explain why they don't riot like Black people are doing now.
This is not a defense of Native Americans over Blacks.
Native American reservations(and I fucking hate that language) which amounts to forced segregation based on white historical power.
But, Natives even given that, have had far more representation of their own even in white forced segregation.
So when Native Americans identify with oppression but don't riot or loot, is a fucking bullshit argument. Both are prisons set up by the white man, but with Native segregation which which is what a "reservation" is, at least Natives get to run their own prisons.
It should not be an argument about how Native Americans or Blacks react to white BULLSHIT, but how whites accept we have been fucking dicks.
I have seen too many stories of minorities of any skin tone, trying to comply and get fucked, or rightfully fighting back and still get fucked.
Your complaints about Native reservations are somewhat out of date. While it was certainly true that reservations were once a form of forced segregation (particularly during periods of forced removal), that is no longer the case. No native is forced to live on a reservation. In fact, the majority of them do not.
Why do you hate the word ‘reservation’? It means land that is ‘reserved’ for natives, and was usually granted by treaty in consultation with the natives themselves (the fairness and honouring of those treaties is another issue entirely).
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June 10, 2020 at 9:36 pm
(June 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 10, 2020 at 8:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This is not a defense of Native Americans over Blacks.
Native American reservations(and I fucking hate that language) which amounts to forced segregation based on white historical power.
But, Natives even given that, have had far more representation of their own even in white forced segregation.
So when Native Americans identify with oppression but don't riot or loot, is a fucking bullshit argument. Both are prisons set up by the white man, but with Native segregation which which is what a "reservation" is, at least Natives get to run their own prisons.
It should not be an argument about how Native Americans or Blacks react to white BULLSHIT, but how whites accept we have been fucking dicks.
I have seen too many stories of minorities of any skin tone, trying to comply and get fucked, or rightfully fighting back and still get fucked.
Your complaints about Native reservations are somewhat out of date. While it was certainly true that reservations were once a form of forced segregation (particularly during periods of forced removal), that is no longer the case. No native is forced to live on a reservation. In fact, the majority of them do not.
Why do you hate the word ‘reservation’? It means land that is ‘reserved’ for natives, and was usually granted by treaty in consultation with the natives themselves (the fairness and honouring of those treaties is another issue entirely).
Boru
I am NOT missing history.
"Reservation" back then was a form of segregation as much as separate black schools and water fountains and bathrooms and busses were with blacks and whites.
But if Drich is going to stupidly ask why Natives today are not rioting or looting it is a complete non sequitur.
Between Blacks an Natives, which whites are still fucking over respectively, Natives still have far more control over what little we whites have left them.
"Reservation" is nothing more than a historical word white history has used to say, "Yea, we stole your land, get over it".
If we were being honest about the word "Reservation" then why didn't white Europeans reserve the land occupied by Natives before we stole it from them?
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June 10, 2020 at 9:43 pm
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(June 10, 2020 at 9:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Your complaints about Native reservations are somewhat out of date. While it was certainly true that reservations were once a form of forced segregation (particularly during periods of forced removal), that is no longer the case. No native is forced to live on a reservation. In fact, the majority of them do not.
Why do you hate the word ‘reservation’? It means land that is ‘reserved’ for natives, and was usually granted by treaty in consultation with the natives themselves (the fairness and honouring of those treaties is another issue entirely).
Boru
I am NOT missing history.
"Reservation" back then was a form of segregation as much as separate black schools and water fountains and bathrooms and busses were with blacks and whites.
But if Drich is going to stupidly ask why Natives today are not rioting or looting it is a complete non sequitur.
Between Blacks an Natives, which whites are still fucking over respectively, Natives still have far more control over what little we whites have left them.
"Reservation" is nothing more than a historical word white history has used to say, "Yea, we stole your land, get over it".
If we were being honest about the word "Reservation" then why didn't white Europeans reserve the land occupied by Natives before we stole it from them?
I didn’t say you were ‘missing history’. In fact, I said you were correct about what reservations were. I was just pointing out that reservations today aren’t forced segregation, because no one is forced to live on them. Good thing, since - as I understand it - the conditions on a lot of the reservations are appalling.
I think your comparison with water fountains, etc, is a little off. A better analogy might be the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII.
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