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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 8:59 am
(June 14, 2020 at 8:55 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's very likely that all of your own misrepresentations of your thoughts turn on novel personal interpretations of given terms.
How can one misrepresent their thoughts? Are you talking about lying? Is that what you mean?
Quote: You can call yourself whatever you want.
Yes. The labels isn't the important part. The important part is the substance. If I didn't call what I believe in God some people would say it should be called God. If I do call it God then some people will say that it shouldn't be called God.
The point is that none of that matters. What matters is the actual substance of what I believe and not the label.
Quote: I'll decide that you're whatever term best fits the things you describe no matter what you choose to call it.
That's how words work.
I know how words work but there is a such thing as you saying that I'm X when I'm not in fact X. And there is a such thing as you strawmanning me.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 9:00 am
It would be so much easier to have the conversation you want to have if you contained it in it's own thread.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 9:01 am
Substance absent of descriptive label is pure nonsense.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2020 at 9:42 am by Duty.)
RE the OP - Winston Churchill is/was pretty well universally worshipped in this Country (England) due to his being credited with saving us from the Nazis and winning WW2. Yup, he had some crappy old-fashioned racist views but most people would probably say that, on balance, leave that statue alone. That's what those "statue protectors" thought anyway. There's also no real evidence I'm aware of that Tommy Robinson is a white supremacist. That "Huggy Bear" thinks it funny they were severely beaten and one had their head stomped on....well, perhaps he'll reconsider.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 9:43 am
(June 14, 2020 at 9:00 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It would be so much easier to have the conversation you want to have if you contained it in it's own thread.
He's schmearing that god shit everywhere, even screwing up the thread about the chump with it.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 10:52 am
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This really is too much - there's no such thing in the UK as an "out" white supremacist organisation, or indeed "out" white supremacy full stop. I've reported the OP. Step away from the Kool-Aid Huggy Bear et al.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 11:24 am
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2020 at 11:28 am by Huggy Bear.)
(June 14, 2020 at 8:43 am)Editz Wrote: (June 13, 2020 at 10:58 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Violence erupted at the statue of Winston Churchill, after known white supremacist Tommy Robinson called for other to join him in resisting those protesting the statue, after Tommy's bodyguard caught feet and hands, he quickly changed his tune.
Do you have any evidence that Tommy Robinson is a white supremacist? I'm English and judge him to be a nasty piece of work, yes, but his beef is with immigrants, and Islam in particular, not genetic "race."
I'm not English but from what I hear is his problem with muslims stated after his sister married one. According to wikipedia he is or has been a white nationalist.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2020 at 11:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Our white supremacists also choose to communicate their position in those terms. In any case, bigots aren't actually obsessed with any genetic race, they're obsessed with a fiction of race. If we wanted to see how much of a blindside the uk has when it comes to white supremacy, check the wiki on white supremacy in the UK. It lists neo-nazis..and that's it.
This isn't just an issue with the uk, but an example of looking for the last adversary or planning to fight the last war instead of the one in front of us today. There are white supremacists in britain, there are political parties that cater to british white supremacy. They're as out as out can be. They employ the same rhetoric and they use the same propaganda, to the same effect. They were very recently a canary in the coal mine when it came to our own white supremacist leanings in the states.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 11:42 am
If Tommy Robinson isn’t a white supremacist, he’ll do til one comes along.
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RE: White supremacists protecting Churchill statue get 'that work' in UK
June 14, 2020 at 11:45 am
He's the kind of white supremacist that other white supremacists would rather not be seen with, lol.
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